Turtleback Cold Air Induction

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jandarah
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Turtleback Cold Air Induction

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With all the "buzz" relating to the assumed benefits of cold air induction, has anyone done anything creative with the two air inlets of the Turtleback air cleaner to route air in from the outside and not within the engine compartment as is the case now? I am looking at some flexible inlet hoses from each inlet to the outside world next to the radiator left side, but still retaining the oil impregnated foam and paper filter with the standard turtleback. I don't want to hack into the turtleback in case it is all a waste of time and money (WOFTAM)

Thanks,
John in Oz
First Fiat: 1970 124 sedan 1970 - 1976
Then horse float towing vehicles up to present.
Current Fiat: 1977 124 Spider 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's
1970 124BC coupe; 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's, used for sprinting
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Mmm, no replies. Sounds like no one has experimented with this idea?...
John in Oz
First Fiat: 1970 124 sedan 1970 - 1976
Then horse float towing vehicles up to present.
Current Fiat: 1977 124 Spider 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's
1970 124BC coupe; 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's, used for sprinting
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jandarah wrote:Mmm, no replies. Sounds like no one has experimented with this idea?...
Probably no replies because two flexible ducts to the front valance can't hurt and should be very easy. Should be able to do it without any mods to the turtle back.
Good luck and let us know how it works!
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Thanks for your input. Yes, it will be easy to run the tubing, just thought I would test the water to see what others might have done.
John in Oz
First Fiat: 1970 124 sedan 1970 - 1976
Then horse float towing vehicles up to present.
Current Fiat: 1977 124 Spider 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's
1970 124BC coupe; 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's, used for sprinting
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Now John, can you help me with a translation? I know, crazy huh? So many variations on the English language...
Is a "horse float" a trailer that one hauls horses in or something entirely different? In our English, a float is soda and ice cream mixed in a glass, or some crazy decorated thing we pull in parades. Ok, could be a thing we use in the pool too but I doubt you needed haul one of those around with anything bigger than a Fiat.
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Your "English"? .... and your asking an aussie?

..... Walks away shaking head and muttering...
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SoFlaFiat wrote:Is a "horse float" a trailer that one hauls horses in or something entirely different?
Yep, a covered trailer for transporting horses, not to be confused with a "Floater".
Mick.

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toplessexpat wrote:Your "English"? .... and your asking an aussie?

..... Walks away shaking head and muttering...
Haha, ok, how about how I speak it?

And, thanks Mick!
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toplessexpat wrote:Your "English"? .... and your asking an aussie?

..... Walks away shaking head and muttering...
Haha, ok, how about how I speak it?
Don't you think you are a bit possessive of the language being a Texan and all?
And, thanks Mick!
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Wow, from Turtlebacks to horse floats! Yep, as Mick replied, it is for trasporting horses, usually for two horses, steel with a fibreglass roof and a drop down ramp at the rear. Ours weighs around 1400 kg unladen, so no Fiat car would pull it. Over your way, I think they are called a trailer and, in Britain, a horse box. Hey, we Aussies speak good English, have virtually the same accent all over the country and can understand each other (even in Tasmania :lol: ).

Now, back to the Spider.....
John in Oz
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Then horse float towing vehicles up to present.
Current Fiat: 1977 124 Spider 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's
1970 124BC coupe; 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's, used for sprinting
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toplessexpat wrote:Your "English"? .... and your asking an aussie?

..... Walks away shaking head and muttering...
Your? :oops: too funny! :D

John, you will be challenged to find something that will slide over the original flaring on the tip of the intake nozzles, Maybe try some large heat shrink to connect the flexible pipe to the air filter housing. Before you do all that, if you can just dummy something up to try it out before spending the $$, I have a feeling it may be a restriction unless you increase diameter on the new intake you plan on.

BTW John, Mick grew up in Canberra, that's why we can still understand him.
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OK, so that is why Mick comes over well. :lol: Yes, it is probably a waste of time etc, to do anything with the Turtleback. I will probably just keep it standard and use the Aussie made Unifilter from Gosford. They actually advertise a specific model that fits the Turtleback, paper, with an oil impregnated foam filter on the outside. The previous owner had made a fairly sloppy air induction box, with solid tubing to an K & N air filter fitted into a hole next to the radiator. I pulled it out in favour of the Turtleback as it was not sealed, looked ordinary and who knows what air it provided the carbies?? At least I know that the Turtleback was designed for the 40IDF's, was used on the rally Spiders, but the big difference is that we don't have the nice cold conditions, more hot than cold. (well, maybe you do in Canberra, except around Parliament House)

I was and still am thinking about making up a box myself and use flexible tubing that I have to the K & N pod, but, is it worth it?? The fibreglass one sold by the Melbourne shop is very expensive for what it is.

Oh, further to the Tasmanian bit, we are breeding Tassie Devils on the mainland now and exporting them to Tassie, all with mainland accents :twisted:

Cheers from SE Qld. Home of the Fiat Nationals for 2016 (my first)
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Then horse float towing vehicles up to present.
Current Fiat: 1977 124 Spider 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's
1970 124BC coupe; 1756cc with twin Weber 40 IDF's, used for sprinting
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jandarah wrote:Oh, further to the Tasmanian bit, we are breeding Tassie Devils on the mainland now and exporting them to Tassie, all with mainland accents
Unless they've got two heads, you're diluting the gene pool.
Mick.

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131 wrote:
jandarah wrote:Oh, further to the Tasmanian bit, we are breeding Tassie Devils on the mainland now and exporting them to Tassie, all with mainland accents
Unless they've got two heads, you're diluting the gene pool.
If they spend too much time in Victoria they'll also be coming back with a caffeine addiction Mick. :D

Looking forward to catching up at the Nationals next year John. I booked my accommodation last night along with a bunch of us from Sydney. I usually drag the 131 up on the trailer for the Super Sprint but I've decided to leave it home for next Nats and road trip it with the Spider. We're driving up in a small group. Hanging out to doing the Bruxner into Ballina, I hear it's a sensational bit of road.
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Ok - so I screwed up on the "your" vs "you're"... Anyway - I really should have indulged my penchant for spiders when I lived in The Shire (and no Hobbit comments required - the Aussies will get it.)

I think I may be down south around about the Nationals next year - so will try to make it. Bizarrely it's easier to get there than Freakout.
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