Panhard rod bent?
- rjkoop
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Panhard rod bent?
I had a bit of a tight fit for the muffler/exhaust between the car and the panhard rod on my '81 Fiat Spider. Here's what the panhard rod looks like.
Front underneath looking up.
Looks bent too far to me. If so, can I remove the bolts holding it on, remove it, and straighten it? Is there pressure on the bolts and maybe I should jack up the car 1st? And I think the panhard rod is supposed to be a little bit bent on my '81. Also how do I determine how much it should be bent?
Front underneath looking up.
Looks bent too far to me. If so, can I remove the bolts holding it on, remove it, and straighten it? Is there pressure on the bolts and maybe I should jack up the car 1st? And I think the panhard rod is supposed to be a little bit bent on my '81. Also how do I determine how much it should be bent?
Richard
1981 Fiat Spider
Ottawa, Canada
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
OMG, yes, it is bent. Looks like they used it to pull or tie down the car with it.
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- 4uall
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
certainly looks bent to me
here is a few pics of mine fyi
no issues removing, no pressure on the bar
here is a few pics of mine fyi
no issues removing, no pressure on the bar
Jay
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- rjkoop
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
Thanks guys. I'll remove, try to straighten back to original, and reinstall. Hope I don't have anymore project creep... I hate project creep!
Richard
1981 Fiat Spider
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
once it is bent like that and you straighten it back, it will be weaker, as the metal tube gets damaged from being crimped . this happened on my car, and we had to sleeve it (welded a larger split tube in that area) where it was bent to make it stronger. nice side effect--it tightened up the rear and the car handled better afterwards.
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1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
- rjkoop
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
Great info. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind when I remove.AndyS wrote:once it is bent like that and you straighten it back, it will be weaker, as the metal tube gets damaged from being crimped . this happened on my car, and we had to sleeve it (welded a larger split tube in that area) where it was bent to make it stronger. nice side effect--it tightened up the rear and the car handled better afterwards.
Richard
1981 Fiat Spider
Ottawa, Canada
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
Its creased so your better off replacing it if your not equipped to weld in reinforcements.
- azruss
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
+1 with Diesel on this. once that pipe has been crimped, it has lost its strength. if you sleeve it, you have added a bunch of weight. should be easy to find a used one.
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
While shopping for a used one, keep in mind that a new one from A/R is about $66, and comes with new bushings already installed.
Just sayin'.....
Neil
Just sayin'.....
Neil
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Madison, WI
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- rjkoop
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
Yep. Ordering a new one for AR is the way to go for sure. If I do my best to straighten for now can I use it until I get the one from AR? I'm heading down to my sisters in NYC (where I'd get it shipped to) July 4th weekend so I couldn't get it until then.
Richard
1981 Fiat Spider
Ottawa, Canada
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1981 Fiat Spider
Ottawa, Canada
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Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... JNKsNVqjfa
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
I'd just leave it alone. Trying to unbend it will cause a loss of strength. A new one is the way to go.
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
when they are bent like that, they can also throw off the rear alignment angles. the thing keeps stuff at the right angles back there.
1967 Fiat 124 Spider
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
1964 Fiat Abarth 850TC conversion
1962 Abarth Allemano 1 liter Coupe
Re: Panhard rod bent?
Wow, what's the toe set to on this sucker? I've got an 1/8" of toe on on the left side of mine, I can only imagine how off the rear alignment is with that panhard rod...AndyS wrote:when they are bent like that, they can also throw off the rear alignment angles. the thing keeps stuff at the right angles back there.
- rjkoop
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Re: Panhard rod bent?
After straightening and reinstalling a few moths ago car tracks straight and no uneven wear on tires. Had the alignment done and they didn't notice anything out of whack. That being said I'm probably redoing the rear suspension over the winter. And at that point I'll replace the panhard rod.
Richard
1981 Fiat Spider
Ottawa, Canada
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1981 Fiat Spider
Ottawa, Canada
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Videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... JNKsNVqjfa
Re: Panhard rod bent?
Crazy, you'd think with a rod that warped the thrust line would be way off, guess the components all wore together in a good way...rjkoop wrote:After straightening and reinstalling a few moths ago car tracks straight and no uneven wear on tires. Had the alignment done and they didn't notice anything out of whack. That being said I'm probably redoing the rear suspension over the winter. And at that point I'll replace the panhard rod.