124 Spider Rondine Tjaarda

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124 Spider Rondine Tjaarda

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Guys,

Some may of seen this earlier in the year, for those who didn't check out this article and the reference and photo of an early Fiat 124 Spider.

http://www.velocetoday.com/auto-depoca- ... 14-part-1/
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Haven't seen this before, thanks.
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That Spider has 1979-on door handles and headrests. I bet someone modified the nose on a late Spider to look like the Corvette Rondine show car.
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It's beyond me why people want to change the fronts and backs of Spiders!!??

I haven't seen a custom job yet that looks better than stock.

But then, as it's been said often, 'Love is in the eye of the guy who has spent a ton of time and money'.
That the way the saying goes, isn't it? :D

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I love the Topolino dump truck.
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i like the car with two engines. how does that work? does each engine power a different set of wheels?
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That Spider has 1979-on door handles and headrests. I bet someone modified the nose on a late Spider to look like the Corvette Rondine show car.
The text implies that this was a 1964 concept car. Does this mean you are calling them dirty, no-good, two-faced liars. :mrgreen:
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Close, but no cigar.

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This is not a package but the original idea
personally I prefer the final version Pininfarina

Single copy of "124 Spider Rondine"

On "AUTOMOBILISMO D'EPOCA" of September (text unfortunately only in Italian) explains the birth of the only specimen 124SPIDER RONDINE made by Tom Tjaarda and Philip Disanto. Only one is original.

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http://www.fiat124spider.it/news.asp?id=186

http://www.automobilismodepoca.it/in-ed ... auto-22449
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The bronze car is absolutely not the concept car for the 124 Spider.

The Rondine was a design study in the early 1960's based on the Chevrolet Corvette. Chevy did not use the concept. It is the light blue car shown on the website. The bronze car is a 124 Spider that was deliberately modified to look like the Rondine. The 124 Spider design is influenced from several designs by Tom Tjaarda, including an Innocenti Spider, the Rondine Corvette, and a Mercedes concept. These were all unique cars, but none of them were the 124 Spider or its predecessor.
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azruss wrote:
That Spider has 1979-on door handles and headrests. I bet someone modified the nose on a late Spider to look like the Corvette Rondine show car.
The text implies that this was a 1964 concept car. Does this mean you are calling them dirty, no-good, two-faced liars. :mrgreen:
CS2/CS0 top, dash (flush vents), door handles, sure does look like a late Spider...and why not - it's pretty obvious by the text that someone requested he take a production Spider and make it look like the Rondine...but that car isn't from 1964 (they didn't even make the wooden version of the 124 Spider until 1965). Here is a complete accounting of how the Rondine influenced the Spider - and how he was convinced to stop trying to make the Spider a Corvette:

http://www.globallistics.com/spiderswebgb/storygb.html
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if anybody cares I scan the beautiful magazine article mentioned above

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I'm with Csaba and Brad. I'm well acquainted with the Tjaarda article Brad linked to, and in it Tjaarda states that he left Pininfarina in 1966 never having SEEN a 124 Spider prototype, much less having produced one that was shown at the 1964 Paris Auto Show. I think that's the kind of thing he would have, you know, mentioned in his account.

This doesn't pass the smell test. The bronze vehicle is a "what-if" project built by an enthusiast. It is interesting, though.
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(Doing the scan of the article is not a correct thing)
I summarize the article for points:
- 1964 Pininfarina Instructs its designer, Tom, to draw the spider 124
- The design matches that of the "Corvette Rondine"
- A Pininfarina unconvincing muzzle redrawing recovering the lines of Ferrari "275 GTS" (pictured below)
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This is the genesis of the 124 spider
- In the 70's Tom sends the designs of its 124 spider in California where a friend starts to build an exemplary
- Forty years after Tom knows Philip Disanto and become great friends (author biography TomTjaarda-2011)
- Together they make Tom's dream: to build his first idea of 124 spider
- The color as everything else is chosen by Tom.
Pictured above on the right Tom and Philip Disanto left
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