I will take a photo of this sway bar set up on the 79 that I picked up. Maybe some one can help me see what the hell this previous owner did, looks like the bushing is wrong size,if there such a thing,or maybe the bracket/sway bar don't belong to this car
passenger side
driver side full of washers
i notice all this when i jack up the front end, i seen the sway bar pulling it self out of the rubber bushing on the passenger side, the higher i jack up that side u can see the sway bar pulling inself out of the rubber, looking at the other side i was like what in the hall are all those washers for, belive me i am not a mechanic lol. but i know better, anyways can some one see what going on with this, or maybe why it not stable
Front sway bar
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Re: Front sway bar
the brackets are left hand right hand. looks like you have the opposite bracket on one side.
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Re: Front sway bar
I found with my after market 1" sway bar, the ends are flush or even stick out a tad when there is weight on the suspension, but when unsprung, the bar pulls back into the bushing a bit.
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Re: Front sway bar
not i,. lol. the other owner. thanksazruss wrote:the brackets are left hand right hand. looks like you have the opposite bracket on one side.
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
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Re: Front sway bar
so in switching them around, that should eliminate the washersazruss wrote:the brackets are left hand right hand. looks like you have the opposite bracket on one side.
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
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1969 124 AS Spider
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Re: Front sway bar
you need to compare the 2 brackets and make sure they arent the same. it could be as simple as flipping the bracket over.
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Re: Front sway bar
thanks for the tip. i will look at my 80 to compareazruss wrote:you need to compare the 2 brackets and make sure they arent the same. it could be as simple as flipping the bracket over.
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
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1969 124 AS Spider
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Re: Front sway bar
Those are the generic brackets that come with the new bar. They do not have the jog/step bent into them that clears the turned over edge of the a-arm like the original brackets. Also the original brackets have a slight twist in them to conform to the a-arm. The generic brackets are ment for a flat perpendicular surface. However it's possible the original brackets were not large enough to accommodate the bigger bar and the new bushing. I don't have any direct experience with the larger 1 inch bar, but I would guess the outer diameter of the bushing is the same, but the inner hole for the bar is larger, could be wrong though.
I would contact one of the vendors that sells a larger bar and see how they tackled the problem.
The ends will "pull out" at each side as you jack up the car and the wheels drop. As the a-arm drops the mounting point actualy moves further away, so it looks like the ends are pulling out.
I would contact one of the vendors that sells a larger bar and see how they tackled the problem.
The ends will "pull out" at each side as you jack up the car and the wheels drop. As the a-arm drops the mounting point actualy moves further away, so it looks like the ends are pulling out.
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Re: Front sway bar
exactly. what is going on, i have no idea where they came from so i have no clue into asking in how to fix thismanoa matt wrote:Those are the generic brackets that come with the new bar. They do not have the jog/step bent into them that clears the turned over edge of the a-arm like the original brackets. Also the original brackets have a slight twist in them to conform to the a-arm. The generic brackets are ment for a flat perpendicular surface. However it's possible the original brackets were not large enough to accommodate the bigger bar and the new bushing. I don't have any direct experience with the larger 1 inch bar, but I would guess the outer diameter of the bushing is the same, but the inner hole for the bar is larger, could be wrong though.
I would contact one of the vendors that sells a larger bar and see how they tackled the problem.
The ends will "pull out" at each side as you jack up the car and the wheels drop. As the a-arm drops the mounting point actualy moves further away, so it looks like the ends are pulling out.
other then going back to the original set up
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
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East Grand Forks MN
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1969 124 AS Spider
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Re: Front sway bar
ok i took the bracket off, either way u put it on,it don't sit correct and i think they should be longer to at least hit the control arm, now what? just in reading about the 1": seems a pain alltogether to install. nothing fits according to what i read, even the center has to be redone differnt
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
Re: Front sway bar
I ran into the same problem with my sway bar. Had to use the original brackets. Big pain since you need to drill out the spot welds, but it fits correctly.
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Re: Front sway bar
i will see what i can do, thanksLStevens wrote:I ran into the same problem with my sway bar. Had to use the original brackets. Big pain since you need to drill out the spot welds, but it fits correctly.
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider