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Re: Paint Job

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:45 am
by 124JOE
they say you cant paint over por15 because nothing sticks
unless you use there primer

my 02 taurus was a rental car
i bought it a year ago
a few months ago i seen a crack in the paint on my dr door
so i opened it up and treated it with rust inhibiter
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man that bondo was thick
about 3/16"
i think this door was hit before

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:09 pm
by fiat124fl
That's about true, POR15 is so sleek, like ceramic. I've never used it, but I know a few guys doing 30's 40's car, blasted and sanded the POR with 80, and then primed the whole thing, comes out fine.
124JOE wrote:they say you cant paint over por15 because nothing sticks
unless you use there primer

my 02 taurus was a rental car
i bought it a year ago
a few months ago i seen a crack in the paint on my dr door
so i opened it up and treated it with rust inhibiter
man that bondo was thick
about 3/16"
i think this door was hit before

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:28 am
by fiat124fl
Finally some outdoor pics!

As I said in one of the videos, we are not here to discuss a $1000 paint job, like a used car dealer who tries to put a car on the lot quick, scuff and paint, then done. We are talking about how to imitate a $3000 plus paint job, do it yourself, without spending that much money.

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Re: Paint Job

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:15 am
by RRoller123
That is really nice! I always liked green on these cars.

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:58 pm
by fiat124fl
British Racing Green, is quite a classic color on this.

Another video on how to wet sand primed body.
http://youtu.be/fl63gkY0270

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:07 pm
by Landhawk
"Had acouple bullet holes in it,we fixed the bullet holes" :lol: Should I ask what the story is on that?

Really liking the videos, keep posting them!
fiat124fl wrote:British Racing Green, is quite a classic color on this.

Another video on how to wet sand primed body.
http://youtu.be/fl63gkY0270

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:10 pm
by Landhawk
Also, is the purpose of the guide coat to show imperfections that you would not see by just sanding the primer?

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:08 pm
by fiat124fl
Correct, it is easy to see with a guide coat that you may miss if you did not use one. Sorry, if I did not explain that enough.
Landhawk wrote:Also, is the purpose of the guide coat to show imperfections that you would not see by just sanding the primer?

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:12 pm
by maytag
I have not had a chance yet to go watch all of the videos. I will. but do you at some point discuss color-sanding?

I've done a number of garage paint-jobs over the years, and I have gotten to where I can lay it down pretty well (nothing like you've got), But once that is done, the paint needs a final rub-down, right? isn't that what they call a color-sand?

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:13 pm
by wikkid
I have watched the (really great) videos. Currently, he is working on an older Isuzu Trooper, and if we are lucky, he will document the steps he is taking.

One vid request: since the Trooper is already primed, there's no opportunity for you to go back to the earlier stages of prep on this vehicle to show us the way you work. Anything on the initial bodywork phases (how to fill/treat the ding you pulled on that Fiat parts car, for example) would be great, as well as the ongoing progress on the Trooper.

That Trooper is making me miss the one we used to have........

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:04 am
by 124JOE
i was told to wet sand it after a week
pass side done
drivers still waiting "it has orange peal"

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:22 pm
by 81SPIDERMATT
maybe i missed it... the talk about compressors ... here is what i am thinking.... my little compressor will be good for everything until final paint... at that point i was thinking of renting a booth..or if funds allow a bigger compressor. as i know that the paint will flash waiting for air to catch up... that is bad on the color and clear BUT it should not matter with primer coats and all.... is that a correct assumption???... love the thread and the vids... thanks for sharing... you would be surprised at how many would not (this forum not included in that statement)

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:40 pm
by fiat124fl
You can paint with a small compressor but bigger is better. You should let the paint flash good in between coats, plan on buffing, so make sure to put enough paint and to wet sand good. I did a video on color coat wet sanding, just not post it yet. If you load too many coats on too fast it will take a long time to dry, so let it flash good between coats.

The problem of a small compressor is that you may run low on air when you are in the middle of spraying which will cause the paint not to atomize correctly. Tank size on a small compressor is the problem. If there is a salvage yard around you can buy an air tank cheap, like 20 bucks or so and pipe your air line into that tank, let it build up then you should have no problem.

Here are some pics of the tanks and compressors I am using. I got the yellow one for 20 or 30 bucks from a local yard. The small blue one I bought for 25 and then I put on a trimmer engine bought for 10 bucks and it works fine. In the pic you can see there are 2 air lines connections (yellow one), one is for in and one is for out. I run the line from the small compressor to it than run a line out to paint. The 2 Hp 20 Gallon compressor I got it for free, use it to grind, sand. The the big 60 Gallon one I've had for quite a while, definitely no problem even paint a semi truck with it.

Salvage yards here sell the tanks cheap around here cuz they pull the motors off for the scrap copper. By adding a tank you will not run out of air and you do not have to spend lots of hard earned money on a new compressor. I hope this helps.
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81SPIDERMATT wrote:maybe i missed it... the talk about compressors ... here is what i am thinking.... my little compressor will be good for everything until final paint... at that point i was thinking of renting a booth..or if funds allow a bigger compressor. as i know that the paint will flash waiting for air to catch up... that is bad on the color and clear BUT it should not matter with primer coats and all.... is that a correct assumption???... love the thread and the vids... thanks for sharing... you would be surprised at how many would not (this forum not included in that statement)

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 pm
by fiat124fl
I covered the drying time issues in this video, from 4:00 up if you want to directly go there. http://youtu.be/GiEP_olLfpE.
124JOE wrote:i was told to wet sand it after a week
pass side done
drivers still waiting "it has orange peal"

Re: Paint Job

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:42 pm
by fiat124fl
Notes on how to color sand, http://youtu.be/GiEP_olLfpE

How to wet sand primer, http://youtu.be/fl63gkY0270