Spider Fuel Lines

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:02 am

ohhh, i know what you are talking about. Maybe you don't even have to have that bulge. I guess I wasn't thinking about how this all connects. There is a hose that slips over this at the ends and if you slip enough hose over it.... nah, let me see about making this bulge thingy....

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:16 am

there are flaring tools available that create a ridge in the tube, they're designed for the newer plastic hose on FI cars, but no reason the ridge wouldn't help retain a rubber hose and clamp

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:26 am

Aren't those flares more like a flange? The fuel injection tube flanges are a bit extreme for rubber hose connections making it kind of hard to get the hose on. Is it possible to use these tools to form it part of the way to create the bulge instead of the full flange. How much do these tools cost and where are they available?

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:26 am

so this would work? (link same as posted on previous page)

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:43 pm

no, a double flare isn't what you need. Not sure what they call the other flare tool. I'll check a catalog and post later

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:59 pm

i've read on several forums that you can do the first step on a double flare and then that will create a suitable ridge. Just cause I've read it doesn't mean it's the best way to do this though!

this has to be what we are talking about right: Bubble flaring tool

or maybe the Hydra-flare tool??? check this last link for a bunch of tools to see what else there is....

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:58 pm

hydra-flare is the ticket. If you use only the first step on the double flare tool, the tube will have a sharp edge that will cut into the hose.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:43 am

sounds good. now where can I get one that isn't so freaking expensive. I mean the dbl flare tools are under 50 (add shipping though). these things are 200-300 bucks! or maybe Autozone can loan me one?

So Cal Mark · Post by **So Cal Mark** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:02 am

those hydraflare tools are fairly new to the market, so that means high prices for awhile. Try Harbor Freight. Or, why not buy steel brake line, it comes with a double flare end and fitting. Then buy hose nipples to screw on to the line? If you need more length, just put multiple lines together with unions

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:33 am

So Cal Mark wrote:those hydraflare tools are fairly new to the market, so that means high prices for awhile. Try Harbor Freight. Or, why not buy steel brake line, it comes with a double flare end and fitting. Then buy hose nipples to screw on to the line? If you need more length, just put multiple lines together with unions

or I could buy the line and some fittings and make it the right length with no unions and buy some nipples to hook the hose to. then I could buy the double flare tool, which I'm sure I'd use plenty.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:19 pm

shopping list:
Double flaring tool
5/16 line
barbed fitting (help me get the right size here if you know...)

what kind of fittings do i need to end off my line to screw on the barbed hose fittings?

mdrburchette · Post by **mdrburchette** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:25 pm

Classic Tube makes fuel lines for all sorts of cars and can custom make what you may need. It may be cheaper than buying the tools to do it yourself. Just a thought.

http://www.classictube.com

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:57 pm

well, here is what is on it, now that I've actually pulled and measured everything. two lines 7.5mm and 6mm (o/d) with bubble flares at each end. each line is about 6ft long.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:24 pm

These tubes sizes are very close to 5/16 and 1/4 which are easier to find and, my guess, a lot less expensive than metric tubing. If you are replacing the steel tubes, you will most likely be replacing the rubber hoses, too? Same goes with the rubber. English sizes are readily available.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:45 pm

Bob wrote:These tubes sizes are very close to 5/16 and 1/4 which are easier to find and, my guess, a lot less expensive than metric tubing. If you are replacing the steel tubes, you will most likely be replacing the rubber hoses, too? Same goes with the rubber. English sizes are readily available.

1 step ahead of you Bob, just bid on 25ft of each 1/4" and 5/16" steel lines. also found a huge set of fuel and vacuum hoses at a good price too. I'll just make a complete overhaul on all my hoses....