Budget 2.0 (2L) build

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this is the current combustion chamber work for my 2.0 build, deshrouded and all sharp edges removed, i did give up a few cc's but it will be worth it. still deciding on pistons... and still searching for titanium retainers
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Very good descriptive, Steve! Thanks for taking the time to put it down into words.

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I didn't realize thet Steve was PM'ing me the same thing he is posting, so here's the reply I just sent to him:

it certainly answers many questions. however; it also takes this into a project that gets in the way of me actually driving the car. :!: :shock:

through the course of what you've just described, you've added several months of work (remember, I'm lucky to get an hour/week on this thing) plus several trips to the machine-shop and the accompanyng delays, plus more machine-work, wich can add-up in $$ very quickly. :|
this is supposed to be a simple budget-build. I'm only boring it in the first place because the previous owner lied to me about the condition of the motor. :(

There must be a place inbetween doing it "just-right", the way you've described, and "doing it half-ass". isn't there a "good-enough" method? :wink: :?:
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whats the i/d of the valve seat at its smallest point, on the euro heads with the bigger valves, on intake and exhaust
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i still want one of those heads. all i can get with stock seats in my usa head is 38 / 33 respectivly. we need to figure out you sending me one, i have no problem paying a reasonable amount. pm me with details if you can find one.
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The Stock Seats can be opened up by 1 mm on the intake and Exhaust while using the stock valves i've done this
it works well for a budget build .
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I feel fine doing the 1mm Open cut and dont see an issue with the valve to seat area ! as for the 105
head that sounds wonderful but we dont have those heads over here but i wouldn't mind trying one
to see what all the hype is about :lol:


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Daniel wrote:I feel fine doing the 1mm Open cut and dont see an issue with the valve to seat area ! as for the 105
head that sounds wonderful but we dont have those heads over here but i wouldn't mind trying one
to see what all the hype is about :lol:


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Steve keeps telling is how easy it us to get the Euro=spec heads and pistons. But I'll admit that I've been watching European & Aussie ebays for most of year now (sporatic searches) and have YET to see a 105tc / 100s head, and I've been watching for some stock 2L pistons on the same sites for about 45 days, and same thing: nuthin'

Maybe Steve can steer us to some sites where we can pick this stuff up? :wink:
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I'm not even sure what cars came with those heads ? or what to look for as i have looked on ebay down under as
well . I have a buddy over there and plan to visit him sometime and would like to do a search if i can when there
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fiatfactory wrote:maytag,

you want advice on how to build your engine, and then you want me to tell you where to buy the parts from cheap.... :roll:

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well, maybe I'm missing something here. You're giving me advice on building my motor... using parts I cannot get. You've told me and others that we CAN get them, but what I'm asking is WHERE? because I have taken your advice, because you clearly know what you're talking about... but I cannot find those parts available to me, at ANY price! So if you persist in dispensing advice on how to build this motor using parts I can't get... then I'll have to start listening to someone else! :wink: :lol:

And let's not forget that the FIRST WORD in the title of this thread is BUDGET! :wink: 8)
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