Everyone in Oz - Must be selling their Spider

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adrians
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Your car is a: 1981 Spider Turbo - missing the turbo
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Everyone in Oz - Must be selling their Spider

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There is 13 Spiders for sale in Australia at present

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/FI ... l%20States

Make that 14
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/FI ... l%20States
Plus one 1984 FIAT SPIDER AZZURRA for $22.5K
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/FI ... l%20States

And another one ???
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/pr ... 0AAAB2F110

The market's been flooded - there goes the resale values !!!!!!
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1981 Spider 2000 (Legend Industries Turbo - minus the Turbo)
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mdrburchette
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Your car is a: 1972 Fiat 124 Sport
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Post by mdrburchette »

Good gracious! 9 of them are early bumper cars...I wondered where all of them went. Here's one I'm not familiar with:
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1972 124 Spider (Don)
1971 124 Spider (Juan)
1986 Bertone X19 (Blue)
1978 124 Spider Lemons racer
1974 X19 SCCA racer (Paul)
2012 500 Prima Edizione #19 (Mini Rossa)
Ever changing count of parts cars....It's a disease!
mbouse

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Post by mbouse »

the trouble with them is the steering wheel is on the wrong side.... i hope they are sold at a discount.
adrians
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Denise,
The one you don't recognise is a 1973-74 CC Coupe with the roof chopped off and a custom rag top.

Mike - Remember these car were never sold in Australia directly by Fiat, so all of them are US or European cars that have been convert LHD to RHD using Coupe parts. - except one for $5,500 which is still LHD.

Regards
Adrian
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2014 Abarth "SS"
1981 Spider 2000 (Legend Industries Turbo - minus the Turbo)
1978 X1/9 1.3 Dual IDF 40's, Coupe Cam, Allison Header/Exhaust
1971 128 Sedan 1100cc, Coupe Cam/Headers
Motokhana Special 127 rear engined Rail 903cc
mbouse

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Post by mbouse »

understood.

question - are those conversions mandated by some law or regulation? in the USA a right hand drive classic foreign car would be left as from the factory, and not converted. the conversion would lower the value of the car
adrians
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Mike,

In previous years - 'you were forced' to convert a car from LHD to RHD ( as mine was converted back in 1994 ). However the various road authories have started relaxing the rules, - an classic car over 30 years old doesn't have to be converted now !
30 years is also the magic number for historic plate registration as well ( cheaper rego - limited driving distance - Club Plates )

I suspect it all comes back to the 'standards' in regards to seat belts and the Oz Crash ratings.

Regards
THE FLEET
2014 Abarth "SS"
1981 Spider 2000 (Legend Industries Turbo - minus the Turbo)
1978 X1/9 1.3 Dual IDF 40's, Coupe Cam, Allison Header/Exhaust
1971 128 Sedan 1100cc, Coupe Cam/Headers
Motokhana Special 127 rear engined Rail 903cc
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ga.spyder
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Your car is a: 1982 Spider 2000
Location: Blairsville ,Ga.

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Post by ga.spyder »

Adrian,
What is the exchange rate for Australian currency to American dollars?
thanks,Craig
Craig Nelson

1982 Spider 2000...pride and joy
1981 Fiat X1/9..gone but not forgotten
1976 124 Spider..the self-healer
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adrians
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2014 Abarth "SS"
1981 Spider 2000 (Legend Industries Turbo - minus the Turbo)
1978 X1/9 1.3 Dual IDF 40's, Coupe Cam, Allison Header/Exhaust
1971 128 Sedan 1100cc, Coupe Cam/Headers
Motokhana Special 127 rear engined Rail 903cc
bajacalal

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Post by bajacalal »

adrians wrote: Mike - Remember these car were never sold in Australia directly by Fiat, so all of them are US or European cars that have been convert LHD to RHD using Coupe parts. - except one for $5,500 which is still LHD.
I have an English (from England) book about Spiders & Coupes that briefly discusses RHD conversion. It is supposedly an easy operation as these types of projects go since the steering column and pedal assembly can come right out of a RHD coupe and the dash is symmetrical with the instrument cluster and glovebox assemblies roughly interchangeable. I guess a fair share of the Spiders originally sold here have since been exported.
adrians
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Yes, the cars were always designed for RHD as well, if you look on your cars in the States you'll see the 'pressing and bolt holes for the steering parts.
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2014 Abarth "SS"
1981 Spider 2000 (Legend Industries Turbo - minus the Turbo)
1978 X1/9 1.3 Dual IDF 40's, Coupe Cam, Allison Header/Exhaust
1971 128 Sedan 1100cc, Coupe Cam/Headers
Motokhana Special 127 rear engined Rail 903cc
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perthling
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Your car is a: 1974 124 Spider
Location: Western Australia

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adrians wrote:Mike,

In previous years - 'you were forced' to convert a car from LHD to RHD ( as mine was converted back in 1994 ). However the various road authories have started relaxing the rules, - an classic car over 30 years old doesn't have to be converted now !
30 years is also the magic number for historic plate registration as well ( cheaper rego - limited driving distance - Club Plates )

I suspect it all comes back to the 'standards' in regards to seat belts and the Oz Crash ratings.

Regards
Adrian is right - to an extent. The rules differ from state to state (sound familiar?). In Western Australia LHD cars were permitted as long as they were fitted with a RHS mirror and had a big sticker on the rear saying 'CAUTION: LEFT HAND DRIVE'. This requirement no longer stands. Now you can drive a LHD car on the roads if you want. 'Historic' registration in W.A. is only 25 years - but dispensations can be made for 'special interest' vehicles which may be younger (eg Lancia Delta Integrale, not originally sold in Australia, so a couple of 16Vs were registered as 'invitation class').
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1974 Fiat 124 Spider (blade bumper 1756cc)
1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
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1969 Fiat 124AC (project)
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SpiderHead

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adrians wrote: limited driving distance - Club Plates )
So, get the special registration, and disconnect the speedo cable? But remember to lube it when you re-attach it I suppose eh? 8)

-Ryan
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perthling
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Your car is a: 1974 124 Spider
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Again, it depends on which State you're in. In WA there is no limit to mileage, but the car is only supposed to be driven to and from Club events, in Club events, or for road testing. The Club event doesn't have to be the Club of which you're a member, it can be any car Club event, and the 'road testing' isn't really policed...
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1974 Fiat 124 Spider (blade bumper 1756cc)
1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
1975 Fiat 124 CC (project)
1969 Fiat 124AC (project)
1997 Coupe Fiat 20VT (daily driver)
http://www.fiatlancia.org.au
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