Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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This may not be much help to Ev at this point (I think he's gotten the idea about "burping" these babies), but here's a "hack" that helps illustrate the point of the high point of the circulation system and may help someone else: when my heater core died a painful death a few years ago I decided just to route around it (I rarely ever used that heater thingy anyway in the climate I'm in). The pic below shows the hose with filler access port (yellow arrow) that I use to bleed air from the system; the looping hose just skips the through-the-firewall part [shortening the hose loop a bit is on my to do list with the engine out]. Just do the normal refill procedures as in the manuals, but I leave the port slightly opened as the fluid gets hot (put some shop towels around to catch the spatter from the air bubbles) and do the final fill though the port.
I think this topic has received a lot of replies because we've all dealt with this "lovable quirk" of these otherwise wonderful little cars. I first discovered this issue with my first Spider ('76 model) when we lived in New Orleans in the '70s - and yes, stuck in traffic in a "nefarious" part of town, heater turned wide open, me sweating bullets. Hang in there Ev.
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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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I think the problem has become more pronounced because its above 80º every day now in nyc.

I replaced the radiator with a new one from Vick Auto.

However, still facing an overheating problem when I let the car run idling for about 10 minutes. Fan does not come on. All the tubes get hot which makes me think the thermostat is working.

Next chapter in this saga is finding out why the fan doesn't come on. I replaced the fuse that controls the fan and the switch and now am going to check the connector with a power tester and see if I can replace some of the old wiring.

Above 195º in Raditor = Fan come on. No? I seem to only remember the fan turning on in the past while I was driving. Wondering if there's some other criteria for it to turn on.
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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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It seems that my "new" fan switch may not be so new, and that's been the issue.

In any case I've wired a temporary Switch directly to the fan which I think I may actually leave under my dash for nyc traffic.
Anytime I'm even climbing slightly above 195º I just leave it on. Seems to be working really well.

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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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That should work. I did the same thing many years ago, with a separate manual switch. Mostly for times when I was heading into stop 'n' go traffic, or was about to climb a long steep hill, or whatever. Gives a bit of advance cooling so that it doesn't heat up as much later on.

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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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+1 on installing a manual switch under the dash near the fuse box. Car does not overheat and fan comes on as it should. In fact, I can't say I've seen it go over 200 degrees since 2010. However, in the once of prevention category. When I am driving on the San Antonio blacktop in stop and go traffic or waiting though five red lights to get through one intersection, its nice to know I can get ahead of the curve putting the fan on and reducing some of the heat up and cool down variation on the engine block/head.
Buon giro a tutti! - enjoy the ride!

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evrenosogullari
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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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Seriously, I've embedded the switch in a little metal piece and drilled it under the steering wheel so its always there, and I'm able to sit in traffic for as long as needed with no issues.

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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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Hi,

Used to live in nyc for ages, and can attest to the combative nature of Fiat ownership in the city. I came across your post, and wanted to suggest Mitchell’s Auto just below on the SE corner of Green wood cemetery.

Hopefully you’ll resolve your issues on your own, but if you need a knowledgeable (fiat owner himself) mechanic…Mitch is your man.

Good luck!
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Re: Overheating in Traffic 1980 Fuel Injected

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MIGHTY 8 wrote:Hi,

Used to live in nyc for ages, and can attest to the combative nature of Fiat ownership in the city. I came across your post, and wanted to suggest Mitchell’s Auto just below on the SE corner of Green wood cemetery.

Hopefully you’ll resolve your issues on your own, but if you need a knowledgeable (fiat owner himself) mechanic…Mitch is your man.

Good luck!
Thanks! It's a bit of a trek from where I am in northern Brooklyn but may just give him a try if I can fix this new transmission leak. :?
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