1978 Restoration

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mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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I read in some other articles that lapped or flanged joints can trap water, so I am butt welding. Where there were spot welds, I am drilling the new panel in the same spots and filling the holes. Still learning as I go. When I do the drivers sill/rocker it will go a lot quicker as I will do it in one big section. Just having fun with it.

Have you ever used crushed glass as a blasting media?
1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
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1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
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chrisg
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Your car is a: 1971 FIAT

Re: 1978 Restoration

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thanks for sharing the great blow-by-blow on this & good luck. That's a serious project and it's kind of refreshing to see someone actually tackling it & having a good time/learning with it vs. tossing the car in favor of a California import. Sometimes the process is the best part. I went through a similar process during which I learned a lot about metal work & the construction of a 124 when I purchased a 124 coupe that basically had the entire interior held in place by the carpet...so I did a LOT of metal work (in my case, surprisingly it was mostly clean above the lower 8" of the car, so that was a bonus). By most practical estimates, it was a ridiculous endeavor, but driving the car with a running engine & complete floors & rockers was a real treat. Keep up the good work!

fast-forward (for me) about 16-17 years later & I've re-acquired one of my 124 Coupes and will be doing a good fraction of the same work again soon.

I did the first project all with a Lincoln 110 flux core always-hot-gun welder & an ancient helmet & a crazy configuration of spot lamps to see my work. one thing I've learned since then is argon is a wonderful thing!
Chris Granju
Knoxville, TN
'71 FIAT 124BS (pretty), '72 FIAT 124BC,'76 FIAT 128 Wagon(ratbeast), '85 Bertone X 1/9, '70 124BC (project), 79 X1/9 (hot rod in rehab), '73 124BS (2L, mean), '74 124 Special TC, '73 124CS, '73 124 Familiare
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seabeelt
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Your car is a: Fiat Spider - 1971 BS1
Location: Tiverton, RI

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Definitely plus one for the argon
Michael and Deborah Williamson
1971 Spider -Tropie’ - w screaming IDFs
1971 Spider - Vesper -scrapped
1979 Spider - Seraphina - our son's car now sold
1972 Spider - Tortellini- our son's current
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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I would definitely agree on that. Got a big Miller mig welder at work. It does a real nice job. Now if I could only stretch the cables and put 480V in my shop at home. Best money spent was on an auto darkening helmet.

It is a great way of learning though. And yes, it is one of those inexplicable irrational projects. I could never justify it to my accountant. Having enough of a problem explaining it to my wife.
1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
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chrisg
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Re: 1978 Restoration

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it is the experience. one would assume you are not doing it to become rich after selling the car on Bring a Trailer. People chose at what point they want to make the rebirth of their car their own experience (everything from what you're doing to simply applying your own type of wax & brand of fuel). Early on, younger & poorer, the long-shot cars were affordable in the sense that a project like that created a self-defined payment plan (often offset by the numerous parts cars/donor cars/fix & flips of less interesting to me stuff to fund them) for building & owning the ideal car that I wanted. The fact that it keeps you out of the bars at night should be a benefit with the significant other!
Chris Granju
Knoxville, TN
'71 FIAT 124BS (pretty), '72 FIAT 124BC,'76 FIAT 128 Wagon(ratbeast), '85 Bertone X 1/9, '70 124BC (project), 79 X1/9 (hot rod in rehab), '73 124BS (2L, mean), '74 124 Special TC, '73 124CS, '73 124 Familiare
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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I always loved cars. That's why I apprenticed as a mechanic. Life ended up taking me down a different road, but I always had that appreciation of cars.
1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Got a little cold in the fall. Given my shop is not heated and it's -30 C out, I haven't really had a chance to work on her a lot. Here are the last progress pictures though.

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1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Starting to fix the rusted rear spring mounts. Have to drill out all the spot welds to remove the thick steel plate piece. Then fix what's left behind it. Actually rusted through at the rear seatbelt mount.
1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Finally getting some more time to work on her.

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1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Sorry,
Haven't really had time to work on the old girl for a while. Also, it's winter and too cold in the shop. Over the last while I've started to work on the interior. Rather interesting learning to sew. Here is the first part of the upholstery I'm making up.

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1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
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rjbaum12
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Your car is a: 1977 Fiat 124 Spider
Location: Horseshoe Bay, TX

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Keep up the good work, I thought we may have lost you. Glad to see you are still at it! :D
1977 Fiat Spider (driveable project...)
1970 Fiat Spider (the next project!)
2013 Toyota Tundra (for hauling projects)
2004 Lowe Suncruiser Jamaica pontoon boat (for project days off)
and a golf cart, just because!
mohle
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Your car is a: 1978 124 Spider

Re: 1978 Restoration

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Nah haven't lost me. Just a serious lack of time. Three kids in soccer etc... and a "honey do" list, doesn't leave enough time to breathe. I did manage to build a rotisserie for it though. That was in the fall. Now that it's too cold, I try doing the interior stuff.
1978 Fiat Spider 1800
2010 F350 6.4 Lariat 4x4
2012 Gulfstream 35qbh
2006 Smart Fortwo Convertible
2000 VW Beetle
1990 Saab 900 Turbo
1992 Saab 900 Turbo Convertible
2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Unlimited
2014 Bayliner 175
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