My first Spider

[ORFORD2004]

So at this point, I guess I need to pull the head back off and make sure piston #1 is at tdc on the compression stroke and reassemble?

No, I mean that your crank will turn 2 turns for the cams to turn 1 turn.

Check this:viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18840&p=147189&hilit=Aux+pulley+timing#p147189

And if you don't have enough clearance on 1 valve you could hit your dome piston.

[RRoller123]

You can just remove the I and E valve adjustment covers, (camshaft box covers) , pull out the spark plug, and watch the valve action relative to the piston as the crank turns. At one point, the piston will be at the top (compression stroke) and the valves will be fully closed, And the second time around, the piston will be at the top, however the valves will be slightly open. That one is the exhaust cycle. You want the TDC on the Compression cycle. The crank turns twice as fast as the valves. But if you are getting interference, and it is not from the Aux shaft, you are going to have to pull the belt and align the valves carefully, by rotating the cam wheels slowly, alternating back and forth by hand, to avoid a piston-valve collision.

[edcreed]

Thanks Pete and roller, I'm going to study this before I start again. .

After pulling the oil pan this morning and studying everything some more, I think I understand johns comments a little more and I think it's just a timing alignment issue. Petes diagram should help with that.

Thanks again

[RRoller123]

It isn't drawn in the sketch, but the same overlap where the valves are simultaneously slightly open, over there on the Right, (the TDC with the 56 under it) also exists at TDC #1, over on the Left. I only drew the Intake valve, because that is all that mattered to me for using the sketch. But it is that TDC in the middle you want to setup to. The 12deg BTDC mark refers to the spark ignition point for the Computronix DIS. The stock disty is set to 10 degrees.

[vandor]

If the cams are lined up correctly then it much be the fuel pump lobe at the end of the auxiliary shaft.
The aux shaft pulley's timing mark should point toward 1 o'clock when the crank is at TDC and cam timing marks aligned.

[edcreed]

Okay thx Csaba I think I'm seeing the light ..the aux pulley has to be the culprit (which several of you were trying to tell me). ..I say that because I didn't consider it at all. I lined up the others but not that one. .Newby mistake?

Tuesday I will put the oil pan back on, put the head back on and put the timing belt on and make sure it all lines up right (including the aux pulley ) and report back. .

thx for the help everyone
Ed

[edcreed]

Okay so most things are put back together and the car is running, but can anyone tell me what these three wires plug into?

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EDIT: okay I see now that this pic isn't really helpful..the wire that is labeled says thermo? They're all around the alternator. .I'll try to take a better pic later.

Thanks
Ed

[RRoller123]

1) Not sure but may be the ground that goes to the back plate of one of the cam boxes, usually exhaust. But more likely it is one of the two wires going to the 2 temp sensors up on top of the head, running down the center.

2) This goes to one of the FI system components, either CSI at the front of Intake Plenum, or one of the 4 Fuel Injectors, or the AAV on top of the air tube, at the bypass. Or could be the TTS underneath and in the Intake Plenum. One of these connections is likely missing, and that will tell you for certain, as long as only one one them is presently disconnected.

3) Probably the fan switch at the bottom of the radiator, driver's side. Since marked "thermos"

[edcreed]

Thanks again for your help Pete! here are my thoughts:

1) the two temp wires on the top of the head are already plugged in (although, not sure if they're working or not...I haven't really checked that out)...However, there is an empty male spade connector on a cluster of other male spade connectors that is mounted to the driver side wall of the engine bay toward the front of the car, and it looks like a good place for that little wire to plug into, but it's about an inch short. I'm not sure what all of those little wires do, so before I go plugging it into something I don't know about, I thought I'd ask...maybe I should try to run those things down first. here's a bad pic of those


2) All four fuel injector wires are plugged in as well as the wire at the front of the CSI...also, those appear to be green and this one is brown...I'm not sure if that makes any difference, but on the chance that it does I thought I'd mention it.

3)there is a switch of some kind at the bottom driver side of the radiator, but doesn't fit this connector...this connector has a male and female side by side (not sure of the actual connector type name)...and the one at the bottom of the radiator looks more like #2 which doesn't reach. The odd thing to me about this switch is that one of the wires coming out of it goes into the same connector type that is plugged into the fan wire (this really makes me re-think my awful picture taking skills) and when I touch this unplugged one to metal, the fan comes on.

I realize this won't help, but here's a pic I took of the engine bay from the drive side door (bad angle, but the only other one I have at this point)

[RRoller123]

I wouldn't go plugging it in randomly either.

Check the TTS under the Intake Manifold. You may need a mirror to see under there clearly. You can feel around for it, but you need to know what you are reaching for.

From your pic it looks like the CSI, AAV and possibly the thermal sensor on the water T at the center/front of the engine are connected, but I can't clearly see the T connection.....

[micbrody]

I think number one is wire that is connected to blade connector of alternator. This turns on light on dashboard to indicate battery being charged by alternator

Number two is probably the TTS. Very hard to find where to connect. Look at throttle body: there is a thick black hose that dives down under injectors and inserts into engine (cyclonic oil separator). Just behind it is where it plugs in

Not sure what number 3 is

[vandor]

Number 2 is for the Thermo Time switch that is on the bottom of the intake, toward the engine, between cylinders 2 and 3.
It turns on the cold start injector for a few seconds if the temp is below ~65F.

[edcreed]

you guys are awesome...I'll check those out. I didn't even know about the TTS, so I'll check that out and post back here.

As for the alternator blade connector, I believe there is already one connected there...but I'll check it out to be sure.

Pete, I believe all 3 are connected properly, although, it's hard to tell from the pic I posted. Once I check it out, I'll post better pics.

thx guys
Ed

[edcreed]

Okay, so I checked under the intake and found the TTS and the #2 plug fit perfectly, so one down, two to go.

I took better pics, here's the #3 plug...I can't seem to find anything like it that is missing it's partner


I just layed it up there to show it's reach...also this one below shows that the fan is plugged in below the hose (the connector it's plugged into has a label that says fan, so I assumed it was the right one ) ...the interesting thing to me is that one of the wires coming out of the black connector (the white wire I believe) goes straight into this white connector...


Now to the little yellow wire with the spade connector...I turned the car on to see if the dash battery light came on...and it did, but the oil light did not. So, I plugged this one into the back of the alternator and the oil light came on. I thought the battery light would go off when I plugged it in, but I didn't expect the oil light to turn on...I tried this several times and instantly when that wire touched the spade on the back of the alternator, the oil light turned on and then off when the wire was pulled off. Does this make sense? Is that wire an oil sensor of some type? and if so, does that mean that there's another wire for the alternator and it's plugged up wrong somewhere?


I have a couple more questions:
A) there's a vacuum hose coming off of the advance on the distributor that has been capped off...Can anyone tell me what it should be running to? All pics I can find show it running back to the firewall and over to the driver side, but can't find where it actually hooks up.


B) While i was looking for where the vacuum hose would go, I noticed a threaded hole that doesn't have anything in it under the throttle spring...any ideas on what goes there? could it just be that I missed a bolt on the intake manifold or something?


B) Can anyone tell me what this is? does it go with the horn? it's mounted up by the bumper next to the horn that I should have included in the pic, but did not. (Also, the pic is rotated counter clockwise 90 degrees...I can't seem to get it upright and got tired of messing with it...my apologies)


thanks again for all the help

[ORFORD2004]

#3 plug, do you use the coolant switch on the driver side bottom of the radiator? It is a switch to turn off the fan. If not plugged the fan will be always on.
A: should be plugged near the throttle plate
B: Bolt missing
C: Air compressor for horn