Steve's '74
- Yadkin
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Steve's '74
I found this car in a basement garage, a house that I did some work on that the owner was selling and needed to get rid of stored items. He wanted $3000 for it. I was interested so asked to test drive it. It hadn't been started in 6 months. It cranked over and started the second try.
The test drive went OK, all I did was drive a few blocks listening for noises. The clutch was terrible, but everything else seemed fine. The car looked nice and straight, the body seams lined up, but it had been painted. A little bit of rust on top of the doors that concerned me, but it looked like a simple project. We settled on $2200 and I drove it away.
That was two years ago. The project has taken a back seat because of my other project, a '64 TBird, was in full throttle. I claimed completion on that a few months ago so work on the Fiat has progressed much quicker. In fact I expect to drive it (no interior) from my friend Mike's shop in Mocksville to my house next week, where I will complete the interior reassembly.
It turns out that the rust was much more pronounced then had been obvious. The cancer was basically stage 2, limited to the shock towers, drivers side floor, and the front inner rockers. The rust on the doors was superficial. Mike's a metal magician and the work was straightforward for him. He's nearly done with final paint, all but the small parts. The color is the original dark blue in a single stage urethane.
I pulled the interior and exterior trim out myself, ordered the obvious parts that I needed then boxed it all up. I'm currently in the process of cleaning the old stuff for round two of ordering.
About a year ago I took two days off from work and overhauled the engine. 56k miles. I did a thorough inspection, finding cross-hatch in all cylinders and no lip at the top of the bores, so I left the rotating assembly intact. One of the cylinder tops was pitted- looked like it swallowed an air cleaner screw (one was missing), but the cylinder itself was undamaged. The valves were all tight so I left the head intact as well. I gave it all a good cleaning, then dried it off with compressed air and brake-clean, reassembled with all new gaskets, new head studs/ nuts, coated all the bare internals with WD-40, masked it off, then primed and painted the exterior. Duplicolor Ford early engine grey matched the original paint well, as far as I can tell.
This week Mike reinstalled the engine and transmission, and I have the seats out to the upholsterer. I'm going with a top grain saddle leather on the bucket seats and backs, the seat sides and the entire rear seat will be black canvas, actually a convertible top fabric. The upholsterer commented that the rear seat fabric would be uncomfortable. My reply was that I wanted to make it look uncomfortable, as I had no intention of ever having rear seat passengers; it was basically an inexpensive package trey. The seat back and rear sides will also be covered in black canvas, as they are dinged up fairly bad. The rear sides that contain the top frame, now tan in color, I figure to paint semi-gloss black. Welting and thread will both be dark blue.
I haven't decided on how to do the dash. My upholstery guy covered my TBird dash, split from sun and age and irreplaceable, in black vinyl with French stitching to work the compound curves. I may do the same thing on the Fiat except with the same canvas. Reproductions are under $300 so that is also in the running.
A friend of mine built the interior wood out of some thin stock he had but I'm not happy with his work. So I will be purchasing a reproduction set. All my gauges are good except the clock lens. I may be installing some custom electronics so a one piece is on my mind as an alternative.
My front bumper appears to have been replaced recently as it looks new. The rears were rusted on top so I masked off the bottom half and painted the top half silver. The plastic energy absorbers were shot so I made a pair from plastic foam lumber. I'm considering conversion to a pre '73 flush system but need to research that out a lot more before I attempt it.
The wheels are OE with 3 of 4 beauty rings dinged up badly and all four center caps. Tires are good too. Vicks has 15" cast aluminum on sale, hard to refuse, and I'll probably end up buying them then sell my old stuff.
The test drive went OK, all I did was drive a few blocks listening for noises. The clutch was terrible, but everything else seemed fine. The car looked nice and straight, the body seams lined up, but it had been painted. A little bit of rust on top of the doors that concerned me, but it looked like a simple project. We settled on $2200 and I drove it away.
That was two years ago. The project has taken a back seat because of my other project, a '64 TBird, was in full throttle. I claimed completion on that a few months ago so work on the Fiat has progressed much quicker. In fact I expect to drive it (no interior) from my friend Mike's shop in Mocksville to my house next week, where I will complete the interior reassembly.
It turns out that the rust was much more pronounced then had been obvious. The cancer was basically stage 2, limited to the shock towers, drivers side floor, and the front inner rockers. The rust on the doors was superficial. Mike's a metal magician and the work was straightforward for him. He's nearly done with final paint, all but the small parts. The color is the original dark blue in a single stage urethane.
I pulled the interior and exterior trim out myself, ordered the obvious parts that I needed then boxed it all up. I'm currently in the process of cleaning the old stuff for round two of ordering.
About a year ago I took two days off from work and overhauled the engine. 56k miles. I did a thorough inspection, finding cross-hatch in all cylinders and no lip at the top of the bores, so I left the rotating assembly intact. One of the cylinder tops was pitted- looked like it swallowed an air cleaner screw (one was missing), but the cylinder itself was undamaged. The valves were all tight so I left the head intact as well. I gave it all a good cleaning, then dried it off with compressed air and brake-clean, reassembled with all new gaskets, new head studs/ nuts, coated all the bare internals with WD-40, masked it off, then primed and painted the exterior. Duplicolor Ford early engine grey matched the original paint well, as far as I can tell.
This week Mike reinstalled the engine and transmission, and I have the seats out to the upholsterer. I'm going with a top grain saddle leather on the bucket seats and backs, the seat sides and the entire rear seat will be black canvas, actually a convertible top fabric. The upholsterer commented that the rear seat fabric would be uncomfortable. My reply was that I wanted to make it look uncomfortable, as I had no intention of ever having rear seat passengers; it was basically an inexpensive package trey. The seat back and rear sides will also be covered in black canvas, as they are dinged up fairly bad. The rear sides that contain the top frame, now tan in color, I figure to paint semi-gloss black. Welting and thread will both be dark blue.
I haven't decided on how to do the dash. My upholstery guy covered my TBird dash, split from sun and age and irreplaceable, in black vinyl with French stitching to work the compound curves. I may do the same thing on the Fiat except with the same canvas. Reproductions are under $300 so that is also in the running.
A friend of mine built the interior wood out of some thin stock he had but I'm not happy with his work. So I will be purchasing a reproduction set. All my gauges are good except the clock lens. I may be installing some custom electronics so a one piece is on my mind as an alternative.
My front bumper appears to have been replaced recently as it looks new. The rears were rusted on top so I masked off the bottom half and painted the top half silver. The plastic energy absorbers were shot so I made a pair from plastic foam lumber. I'm considering conversion to a pre '73 flush system but need to research that out a lot more before I attempt it.
The wheels are OE with 3 of 4 beauty rings dinged up badly and all four center caps. Tires are good too. Vicks has 15" cast aluminum on sale, hard to refuse, and I'll probably end up buying them then sell my old stuff.
- joelittel
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Re: Steve's '74
Looking forward to seeing pictures
- Yadkin
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Re: Steve's '74
Apparently I'll have to make more posts before I can post pictures?
- joelittel
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Re: Steve's '74
No, you can post pictures now.
First get a photobucket or similar account. Add your pictures to this account. Figure out how your photo hosting site of choice shares links to your picture..... I find photobucket to be one of the easiest. They simply have a "share" button that leads you to a few simple options. You want the Link option.
Then back at fiatspider.com in your post you'll hit the IMG button. This will display some fancy code that looks almost exactly like this: [ img ] [ / img ]
Now you put your cursor between the two brackets and past the link to your photo site of choice. It'll look similar to this: [img]link%20here[/img]
Once you submit your post you'll see your picture in place of the fancy code.
First get a photobucket or similar account. Add your pictures to this account. Figure out how your photo hosting site of choice shares links to your picture..... I find photobucket to be one of the easiest. They simply have a "share" button that leads you to a few simple options. You want the Link option.
Then back at fiatspider.com in your post you'll hit the IMG button. This will display some fancy code that looks almost exactly like this: [ img ] [ / img ]
Now you put your cursor between the two brackets and past the link to your photo site of choice. It'll look similar to this: [img]link%20here[/img]
Once you submit your post you'll see your picture in place of the fancy code.
- RRoller123
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- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:04 pm
- Your car is a: 1980 FI SPIDER 2000
- Location: SAGAMORE BEACH, MA USA
Re: Steve's '74
Here is a thread on how to post pictures directly to the forum:
http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic ... 13&t=32169
And here is another picture-posting thread:
http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic ... 12&t=23084
This short instruction covers how to resize pictures so that they don’t get cut off at the right side:
http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30441
And here is a link to a map of Spider owner’s locations. Many forum members have listed their locations.
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=191825
http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic ... 13&t=32169
And here is another picture-posting thread:
http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic ... 12&t=23084
This short instruction covers how to resize pictures so that they don’t get cut off at the right side:
http://www.fiatspider.com/f15/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30441
And here is a link to a map of Spider owner’s locations. Many forum members have listed their locations.
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=191825
'80 FI Spider 2000
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
- Yadkin
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- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
Re: Steve's '74
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- Yadkin
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- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
Re: Steve's '74
Got it.
- Yadkin
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- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
- Yadkin
- Posts: 162
- Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:08 pm
- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
- Yadkin
- Posts: 162
- Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:08 pm
- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
- Yadkin
- Posts: 162
- Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:08 pm
- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
Re: Steve's '74
The roadster wheels from Vicks arrived yesterday. My gosh I've never seen such a great packing job. Each one covered in thin foam sheet, then a plastic protector for the outer rim, then a hair net type thing for top, all inside a padded box. The wheels themselves are gorgeous, painted a glossy smoked silver.
The lug nuts provided are very cool, requiring the special thin-wall socket supplied with the kit. All the studs and nuts count out at 17, one extra.
The lug nuts provided are very cool, requiring the special thin-wall socket supplied with the kit. All the studs and nuts count out at 17, one extra.
- RRoller123
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Re: Steve's '74
That is turning into one beautiful project!
'80 FI Spider 2000
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
2003 Jaguar XKR
2021 Jayco 22RB
2019 Bianchi Torino Bicycle
- Yadkin
- Posts: 162
- Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:08 pm
- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
- Yadkin
- Posts: 162
- Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:08 pm
- Your car is a: 1974 Spider
- Location: Pisgah National Forest, NC
Re: Steve's '74
The bucket seat and backs are top grain leather. The sides are black canvas- convertible top fabric. Piping and stitching are dark blue to match the car. He had extra leather from the skin I purchased, so he covered the seat backs as well.
I have a large piece left, considering covering the wood panels on the dash and shifter, which currently look horrible.
I did the back set in the same canvas. I don't want it to be comfortable, just a padded package tray.
More pics:
I have a large piece left, considering covering the wood panels on the dash and shifter, which currently look horrible.
I did the back set in the same canvas. I don't want it to be comfortable, just a padded package tray.
More pics:
- Ptoneill
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Re: Steve's '74
That is a beautiful car, I really like the seats nice color contrast. What are your plans for the door cards?
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Pat
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Pat
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HAVE FUN!! It's a FIAT!!
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