top end re-build
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top end re-build
Looking for advise and help to remove and re-over-haul my twin heads on my 1978 124 spider. I have had a wet & dry compression test done and that seems to be ok I seem to have oil blowing by the valve stem seals. any help or advise would be great. thanks. Homer
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Re: top end re-build
Pulling the head on a twin cam is pretty simple and straight forward. Need to drain the coolant, set motor at TDC and set the e-brake. disconnect exhaust at header junction with the tail pipe. disconnect throttle linkage, pull wires and hoses after you take a full set of picture of everything. remove fuel line and plug. remove timing belt. remove the 8 headbolts and lift. Get a good manual and read it in case i missed anything.
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Re: top end re-build
Once the head is off, order a gasket kit, guides and seals, strip the head and take it to a good auto machinist.
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Re: top end re-build
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I did remember there were 10 headbolts. not 8. Also check to see if the heater tube under the exhaust manifold has a clamp in the middle that ties to the exhaust manifold stud. That needs to be disconnected too.
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Re: top end re-build
> set motor at TDC
Why? I always make sure none of the pistons are at TDC when reinstalling the head. That way I am sure there will not be any piston to valve interference when installing the head.
Why? I always make sure none of the pistons are at TDC when reinstalling the head. That way I am sure there will not be any piston to valve interference when installing the head.
Csaba
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http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
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Re: top end re-build
X2.vandor wrote:> set motor at TDC
Why? I always make sure none of the pistons are at TDC when reinstalling the head. That way I am sure there will not be any piston to valve interference when installing the head.
Mick.
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'82 2litre 131, rally cams, IDFs & headers.
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Re: top end re-build
Thank you -thank you you guys are great I feel a lot better to tackle the project,I see International auto parts have manganese bronze valve guides is it worth doing while its all open in there Homer.
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Re: top end re-build
The stock guides are cast iron and they works fine with stock valves. We recommend using the bronze guides with the stainless steel high-performance valves. We carry both type.
On your '78 the valve guides are likely the later type with 14mm outside diameter, but it may be best to check before ordering replacements.
On your '78 the valve guides are likely the later type with 14mm outside diameter, but it may be best to check before ordering replacements.
Csaba
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
'71 124 Spider, much modified
'17 124 Abarth, silver
http://italiancarclub.com/csaba/
Co-owner of the best dang Fiat parts place in town
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Re: top end re-build
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Re: top end re-build
I've never had a set of stock guides wear out. They're tough. "Manganese Bronze" sounds like a cheap sun tan lotion.lesholmes wrote:Thank you -thank you you guys are great I feel a lot better to tackle the project,I see International auto parts have manganese bronze valve guides is it worth doing while its all open in there Homer.
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