Cold Running

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zachmac
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Your car is a: 1978 Spider [1979 2 ltr engine]
Location: Aiken, SC

Cold Running

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First off, I know that there are a lot of forum members who would love to have this problem, but my 1978 Spider seems to be running cold. Either that or I have a bad sending unit / gauge. I am used to a sorted Spider running right on 190, maybe a little cooler running down the road and cycling up and down with the fan at idle around that range.

Now that I've cured the car of smoking (see other post), I noticed while driving in 83 degree SC heat that the car barely runs 160 indicated temp if I am moving at all. Plus it takes a very long time to warm up. If I just let it sit and idle it takes a very long time to even reach 190 (indicated). So, where to start?

I realize it could be several things: stuck open thermostat, bad sender, bad gauge, bad gauge wiring (ground). I don't have a heat gun handy; where should I start for troubleshooting? I would really rather run a little warmer for combustion efficiency.
Jeff Klein, Aiken, SC
1980 FI Spider, Veridian with Tan (sold about a year ago), in the market for another project
1989 Spider, sold
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GeorgeT
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Your car is a: 1982 Fiat 124 Spider

Re: Cold Running

Post by GeorgeT »

Start with the thermostat; this sounds as if it is stuck in the OPEN position.
narfire
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Your car is a: 1980 124 spider
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Re: Cold Running

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I have the same problem as it runs around the 120- 130 deg mark but in the line ups at Tim's, it does climb to 190 when the fan kicks in. I figure the temp range is fine with the summer heat we can get. I know I have a good rad and do have the 1/8th hole in the thermostat mod. Cooler mornings now, so the line-ups have to be longer before the temp gets up there.
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azruss
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Re: Cold Running

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I have found the issue with sticky stats is the small shaft the valve slides on gets sticky from contaminants in the coolant. I have cleaned this shaft and all is working ok, at least for the time. If the shaft could be lubed with maybe anti-seize or silicon like you get from the pool supply house, it would be operational again.
zachmac
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Your car is a: 1978 Spider [1979 2 ltr engine]
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Re: Cold Running

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I just hate to break open / drain a working coolant system on these cars, fill and vent being the PITA it is. I'll check guage and sender first.
Jeff Klein, Aiken, SC
1980 FI Spider, Veridian with Tan (sold about a year ago), in the market for another project
1989 Spider, sold
2008 Mercedes SL65
2008 S600 Mercedes V12
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btoran
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Your car is a: 1975 Fiat 124 Sport Spider
Location: Northport, NY

Re: Cold Running

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borrow or buy a heat gun. they're cheap these days.
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zachmac
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Re: Cold Running

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btoran wrote:borrow or buy a heat gun. they're cheap these days.
That's a good first step. I'm sure my local friend / indy has one.
Jeff Klein, Aiken, SC
1980 FI Spider, Veridian with Tan (sold about a year ago), in the market for another project
1989 Spider, sold
2008 Mercedes SL65
2008 S600 Mercedes V12
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