best control arms....
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best control arms....
who's got the best replacement control a-arms?
Thanks,
Ken
Thanks,
Ken
Ken
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Re: best control arms....
Ditto ... same question. I am about to order a full set (upper and lower) myself. All of my to date research suggests that AR has the best (equal to or better than OEM). Comments ??
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Re: best control arms....
I put in the AR uppers and lowers on both sides, with the ball joints already installed. Completely trouble free.
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Re: best control arms....
I put vicks on.RRoller123 wrote:I put in the AR uppers and lowers on both sides, with the ball joints already installed. Completely trouble free.
I'm sure there all the same,except them tubular ones
Jim
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Re: best control arms....
I rebuilt my front suspension last year.
It seems that the control arms made by "Vema" are really good as far as fit and quality.
I got mine from IAP and they fit perfectly.
Ask your vendor(s) if they carry control arms made by Vema, if you want a control arm that fits like the originals.
It seems that the control arms made by "Vema" are really good as far as fit and quality.
I got mine from IAP and they fit perfectly.
Ask your vendor(s) if they carry control arms made by Vema, if you want a control arm that fits like the originals.
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Re: best control arms....
I think Csaba said that there is only one manufacturer of these anyway? Is that still correct?
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Re: best control arms....
Csaba ?
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Re: best control arms....
at Auto Ricambi. Maybe it was Ramzi. They are always here and can comment if they read this. I think I heard that there is only a single modern manufacturer of the arms, but my memory could be mistaken.
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Re: best control arms....
Csaba and Ramzi have never steered me wrong (no intentional pun on control arms or steering linkages intended) All I know is that I think they get their control arms from Italy.
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Re: best control arms....
The Vema control arms are made in Italy.
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Re: best control arms....
did my driver's side yesterday, not as bad as i feared.
AR uppers, Vick lowers. got a loaner spring compressor from o'reilly, worked fine. compress the old spring before you take it all apart. when putting it back together don't put the clip on the lowest or second lowest coil, it makes it hard to pull out.
a couple of other things i ran into:
the inner bearing was stuck on the spindle, just had to yank the disk till the rear seal popped out, then stuck a chisel between the inner race and the spindle shoulder to pop it off ( never had that issue before )
the design for the brake bracket and dust shield is terrible! those clipped bolts just bend the brake shield lip over, and the bolt heads are so close to the edge you can't get a socket on them - get out the 15mm wrench to hold on to the clipped side. couldn't find m10x1.25 locknuts so had to use the goofy straps over (going to order a 25 pack, let me know if you need some). i'll get some and get back in there and fix it. and don't get me started on the spindle nuts - always keep some extras on hand.
AR uppers, Vick lowers. got a loaner spring compressor from o'reilly, worked fine. compress the old spring before you take it all apart. when putting it back together don't put the clip on the lowest or second lowest coil, it makes it hard to pull out.
a couple of other things i ran into:
the inner bearing was stuck on the spindle, just had to yank the disk till the rear seal popped out, then stuck a chisel between the inner race and the spindle shoulder to pop it off ( never had that issue before )
the design for the brake bracket and dust shield is terrible! those clipped bolts just bend the brake shield lip over, and the bolt heads are so close to the edge you can't get a socket on them - get out the 15mm wrench to hold on to the clipped side. couldn't find m10x1.25 locknuts so had to use the goofy straps over (going to order a 25 pack, let me know if you need some). i'll get some and get back in there and fix it. and don't get me started on the spindle nuts - always keep some extras on hand.
Ken
72 124 spider 1608
75 124 coupe 1756 (RIP)
72 124 coupe 1608 (RIP)
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Re: best control arms....
Agree about those clipped bolt heads. I used a large pair of vice grips to hold them. Otherwise, you are correct, and they just plow right through the shield and spin!
'80 FI Spider 2000
'74 and '79 X1/9 (past)
'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
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'75 BMW R75/6
2011 Chevy Malibu (daily driver)
2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Ext Cab 4WD/STD BED
2002 Edgewater 175CC 80HP 4-Stroke Yamaha
2003 Jaguar XK8
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Re: best control arms....
going to look at cutting star washers when i get to the other side. my local hardware had the m10x1.25 lock nuts, but only 4!
Ken
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Re: best control arms....
it would seem they're vema from AR and Vick. just noticed this on the other lower arm
granted i did order these in 2009 and am just getting around to getting them installed ( i was scared of the springs! ) but the arms have been in my shed since then, so I'm a little disappointed in the cracked rubber, i'm sure they'll last a good bit yet.
hey, has anybody replaced the clipped bolts with socket head cap nuts? think i'll check that out.
granted i did order these in 2009 and am just getting around to getting them installed ( i was scared of the springs! ) but the arms have been in my shed since then, so I'm a little disappointed in the cracked rubber, i'm sure they'll last a good bit yet.
hey, has anybody replaced the clipped bolts with socket head cap nuts? think i'll check that out.
Ken
72 124 spider 1608
75 124 coupe 1756 (RIP)
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72 124 spider 1608
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Re: best control arms....
Buy new bushing
Jim
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider
East Grand Forks MN
1970 Fiat Spider BS1 ( FOR SALE
1969 124 AS Spider
2017 Abrath
2018 Alfa Romeo 4c Spider