A black '69 124 Spider AS

[seabeelt]

If you're in Italy, try Spiderpoint.com in Germany, they have everything, there is also DTR Sports in the UK. Shipping might be cheaper and probably won't have the import taxes from the US.
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[RCSquadraCorse]

If you're in Italy, try Spiderpoint.com in Germany, they have everything, there is also DTR Sports in the UK. Shipping might be cheaper and probably won't have the import taxes from the US.
R/

Thanks a lot for the links! Really appreciated!

Riccardo

[djape1977]

geting the engine and gearbox out is optional but makes the job much easyer.

you don't need engine lift, just disconnect everything, tie a piece of rope around intake and exaust manifold, get a 3 meter steel pipe, a friend or two and use your imagination. or roll the car under a big tree in your yard...

[Weelan]

Actually though, mine are advance auto units...about 35/corner for calipers, are those crap or something ?
It also came with slotted/dimpled rotors

Have you been relatively happy with these? $35 is considerably less than $100 without rotors. Although if they came with rotors and I actually needed to use the new rotors then I'd need all 4 cause it'd look silly not having matching kinds of rotors.

[OffThaHorse]

I may have worded my posts poorly

I paid a total of 200 for the car I have
The car doesn't run so unfortunately I can't comment on the performance of the advance auto pads/rotors.
The pads/rotors came with the car when I bought it, two were already on and two were in the trunk. There was also a carb rebuild kit, and old coil, old timing belt and a couple of brake hoses.

So, the reason I said I was afraid was that if these parts total up to over 200 dollars, the PO must have been really eager to be rid of the car.

[RCSquadraCorse]

Hello and happy August 15 to everyone!
Just a quick update on the (really slow) restoration.
I'm still busy with the brake system, it seems that some nuts and bolts were tightened so hard that now it's a lot difficult to unbolt them... in fact I also snapped a steel brake line (or hard brake line), the one on the right front side... I went so mad that I had to go away from the car for a couple of days. I was really p****d off!
So I went fly fishing in the stream close to my house to relax a bit, it was really needed!
However, not I'm almost done with the removal of every part of the brakes, but I still have to unbolt all the hoses from the hard line because now I'm really scared to do more damages... and one of the support brackets of the caliper is bolted in really hard and I don't know how to remove it without doing damages.
Any suggestion on how to separate hoses and hard line is really appreciated. Bolts have been soaked in WD40 for about 1 week now, but they're still really hard to be loosen. I've tried also with vice grip pliers with the only result of make some damages on one bolt...
Good news is that I've already got the replacement for the broken hard line, overhaul kit for all the calipers, new brake hoses, a new brake pump and a new hand brake cable.
Pictures time as always (just a few, not many, don't worry!):
This is the condition of the rear right caliper... gnammy!


And this is how the gaskets look like on the calipers (they're all in the same conditions):


Managed to unscrew, remove and clean the cylinder of the rear left caliper, so I've been able to get the right overhaul kit:



My little sister is enjoying looking at me while I go mad with the car (lol!), so I gave her something to do to get her hands dirty and stop laughing at me... a nice result for the first cleaning with a wire brush:


Now a little bit off topic, but this is the only good news when I have to go to take my new parts from the supplier... the panorama of the beautiful Garda Lake (sorry the weather was not good at all):


And this is a view of the valley where the 124 is stored... once finished she'll run again on the roads between the towns:


This is it for now. As I've already said, I still have to find a way to unscrew a couple of hoses, the hard lines and a caliper's bracket. Any suggestion on how to proceed is well appreciated.
Cheers gents!

Riccardo

[dmwhiteoak]

Simply beautiful

[Weelan]

Oh my gawd you live in Milan! I just realized that with the pictures I guess. I love Milan. So beautiful!

Sorry about the brake line. I can't give any advice on the bolts... I rounded the hex end on all my bolts that were on the hard lines trying to replace the hoses. I had to cut the lines just above the bolts... The bolts can be hard to find, maybe you'll have better luck in Europe though.

Got some more wire brush work for your sister looks like haha.

[RCSquadraCorse]

Simply beautiful

Oh my gawd you live in Milan! I just realized that with the pictures I guess. I love Milan. So beautiful!

Sorry about the brake line. I can't give any advice on the bolts... I rounded the hex end on all my bolts that were on the hard lines trying to replace the hoses. I had to cut the lines just above the bolts... The bolts can be hard to find, maybe you'll have better luck in Europe though.

Got some more wire brush work for your sister looks like haha.

Thanks guys, glad you like this part of Italy!
Ryan, this is not Milan! Ahah! This is the Trento area, Milan is an industrial city and is not half as good compared to these places! Milan is still a beautiful city (I love it), but these are pure Italian Alps! Here is where my mum lives and works, she has a farm and produces organic apples and this is the best place in the world for apples!
As I've said before, the car is stored here because in Milan (I live in the central area) is impossible to have a garage or a private place where to store the car (even a "box" will costs you around 150/200 Euro per month near my house)! Here instead, near Trento, we have a bigger house (not an apartment like in Milan) with the small garage and it's just 2:30 hours away from Milan. Not really close, but not that far away!
However I've snapped the hard line in the exact same place as you, just above the silly bolt! It's far more easy to find a new hard line than a new replacement bolt! Luckily the parts supplier had the last hard line for the front right side of my AS and now I'm scared to do more damages with the other lines! When I start to unscrew the bolts the hard line starts to twist like if it was made out of butter! And it makes me MAD!
Going to put some more WD40 right now and taking my sister with me for more wire brush work on the calipers and brackets (in the previous pic the caliper with the label on it was still in needing of a cleaning treatment of course!)! Ahahah!

Riccardo

[giuliot60]

Sorry to hear about the brake lines. Here in the states we have a rust spray called "PB Blaster". I haven't replace my brake hoses yet, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Little sister? I must have missed something about her. But why not get the family involved.

Beautiful country! I've gone skiing in Cormayeur. An amazing place. My folks come from the Puglia region by the sea, which is beautiful too. Love and miss Europe.

Good luck. One step at a time, and remember Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Weelan]

Oh right, I forgot for a second. Milan is the one that's inside the city walls right? It feels so cool in there. Still a really cool city and the land around it is so beautiful. Trento sounds awesome too. I bet it's amazing. I'm jealous haha.

Ya, I broke one of my lines there. One thing you can is, with the hose disconnected from the cylinder, and hold the bolt on the metal line still with one wrench and turn the wrench that's holding the hose. That way the line isn't being twisted. That's the best luck I had to not break the line until the bolt rounded off... The bolts can be found online if you ruin them, just have to find them... I can look the dimensions up if you need them. What I did was keep the lines and just attach new bolts. there's a tool for flaring the metal line to hold the bolts in place.

Good luck! and ya, she did a pretty good job on the other caliper. I'd send you mine if I was closer hahaha.

[Redline]

Spent a lot of time hanging off a cliff in Riva on the Gardasee (Lake Garda). Excellent climbing, beautiful driving (if you can avoid the holiday traffic).

[124JOE]

for your stuck brake lines what i do is
use a line wrench it looks like a closed end"box wrench"but open a bit in the middle

they go on the hard line,the flat spots that hold the bolt are a bit tapered.so to hold the nut when pushed down on it

after its on i use small vice grips from the oppisit direction
as for the rubber side of it
i pull the clip cut the rubber and vice grip or wrench"i perfer a box whench"
then spin the old rubber off

i hope this helps all
joe

[RCSquadraCorse]

Sorry to hear about the brake lines. Here in the states we have a rust spray called "PB Blaster". I haven't replace my brake hoses yet, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Little sister? I must have missed something about her. But why not get the family involved.

Beautiful country! I've gone skiing in Cormayeur. An amazing place. My folks come from the Puglia region by the sea, which is beautiful too. Love and miss Europe.

Good luck. One step at a time, and remember Rome wasn't built in a day.

I have to say that WD40 works pretty well with rust and dirt stuff, but I think I'll try something else if I can't unscrew those silly bolts!
And yes, I have a 16 years old sister (and a 29 y.o. brother too) that loves cars, so instead of leaving her laughing at me I gave her something to get her hands dirty! Ahahah! I'm also teaching her to drive the car and she's pretty good too!
Courmayeur is an amazing place, I've been there many times, and the south of Italy has some gorgeous sea places! I still prefer mountains and cold weather tho! Ahah!
And you're so true man, Rome wasn't built in a day, so I'll take my time to take back the 124 on the road.

Oh right, I forgot for a second. Milan is the one that's inside the city walls right? It feels so cool in there. Still a really cool city and the land around it is so beautiful. Trento sounds awesome too. I bet it's amazing. I'm jealous haha.

Ya, I broke one of my lines there. One thing you can is, with the hose disconnected from the cylinder, and hold the bolt on the metal line still with one wrench and turn the wrench that's holding the hose. That way the line isn't being twisted. That's the best luck I had to not break the line until the bolt rounded off... The bolts can be found online if you ruin them, just have to find them... I can look the dimensions up if you need them. What I did was keep the lines and just attach new bolts. there's a tool for flaring the metal line to hold the bolts in place.

Good luck! and ya, she did a pretty good job on the other caliper. I'd send you mine if I was closer hahaha.

Milan has just the central part inside the old Spanish walls (the fence of my house is litterally part of those walls. lol) but it's a really beautiful city. Not as big or as interesting as Rome, but I prefer a little bit less tourism and more design/industrial places instead of Rome's chaos!
I think I'll try that route, using the wrench on the brake hose and not on the hard line. For now all my bots are safe, I hope not to ruin the ones left! Ahah! Thanks for the tip!

Spent a lot of time hanging off a cliff in Riva on the Gardasee (Lake Garda). Excellent climbing, beautiful driving (if you can avoid the holiday traffic).

You have to know the smaller streets to avoid the traffic, and the more you go up, the more the streets are beautiful!

for your stuck brake lines what i do is
use a line wrench it looks like a closed end"box wrench"but open a bit in the middle

they go on the hard line,the flat spots that hold the bolt are a bit tapered.so to hold the nut when pushed down on it

after its on i use small vice grips from the oppisit direction
as for the rubber side of it
i pull the clip cut the rubber and vice grip or wrench"i perfer a box whench"
then spin the old rubber off

i hope this helps all
joe

Hey Joe, thanks for the advice! I know the tools you're talking about, but it seems that in Italy no one use them! I went to ask for a line wrench and the guy was looking at me like if I was drunk!
I may buy a set of those on ebay if I won't be able to work with the vice grip and the normal wrenches.
I'll try everything not to ruin the hard lines, that's for sure!

Thanks a lot guys!

Riccardo

[djape1977]

no big issue even if you do end up destroying har lines, you can buy a full set for lada online for less than 50e and it's a straight bolt-on for any old fiat