Real Abarth?

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Europa
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Real Abarth?

Post by Europa »

Looks like the real deal. I couldn't find a picture of the rear suspension.

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Here's the link to the auction.
http://www.rmauctions.com/featurecars.c ... r412&fc=0#

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http://www.rmauctions.com/CarDetails.cf ... CarID=r412
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Re: Real Abarth?

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could have started life as a regular production car and converted to compete. Standard fuel filler door, looks like 1600 emblem on tail, pic 15 in the gallery. Would be nice to be able to see the rear suspension, but it is described as an independent rear.
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Re: Real Abarth?

Post by johndemar »

No question wanna be. Just glancing, fuel filler, bumpers, hood cowl, interior panels....

And estimate sale of 60,000 to 80,000 euros? Get a hold of Guy Moerenhout and get a real one for a lot less.
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Re: Real Abarth?

Post by Redline »

johndemar wrote:Get a hold of Guy Moerenhout and get a real one for a lot less.
Some of the "restoration" work on GM's website would make me run the opposite direction.

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Re: Real Abarth?

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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Real Abarth?

Post by corujoxx »

It´s an standard 1600 turned into an Abarth. All the factory turned has the fuel tan in the midlle and the fuel cap in the top of the center section.
Rear usspension...May be converted into independent by a good bodyshop.

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Re: Real Abarth?

Post by 124cso »

I would suspect it is just a made-up replica / copy / wannabe. If it was real, there would be a papertrail ex the works/factory as they never made them for retail after all.
I can recall when they brought a team here as part of the world rally circuit, must have been early 70's when I was a schoolboy. Anyway, I recall being surprised at how stark they were inside with virtually no trim, certainly no wood & vinly dash and no centre console. From memory it was just rubber matting over sound deadening The spare wheel (wheels?) was mounted on the parcel shelf inside the cab.
I'm not sure when thay added the vents in the front guards for extra cooling, then added scoops to cool rear brakes
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Re: Real Abarth?

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A while ago there was a nice description here or on another site of the earliest rally cars. Sometimes people confuse the later full-on factory effort with the first toe-dipping experiments. The very first rally cars were not quite as fire breathing as the later ones, and also pre-date the "Stradale" version. I wouldn't be so hasty to say it's not genunie, however it is also not as interesting a car as the later ones and the price is pretty steep, given that the first ones were not so quick.

Ah... here it is:

http://www.fiatspider.com/f08/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8248

You have to distinguish between the BS1 Spiders which were then prepared for rallies, and the later full-on factory effort with the Abarth cars.
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Re: Real Abarth?

Post by RJ80 »

Guys,

The post above is correct. This is a genuine early-style Abarth rally car, which is quite different from the later cars homologated by the Abarth Rally Stradale. Do a google search and you'll see plenty of information and images on these early factory cars that gave the 124 Spider its start in international rallying.

I've covered RM Auctions sales for years and the company is very reputable, selling some of the finest cars in the world. If the car was a fake or a 'tribute' car, it'd say so in the description. Please note I don't work for RM, I've just attended many of their sales and know some of the staff on a professional level.
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