Pronunciation?

[DocGraphics]

Ok, so I've been wondering this, heard it 3 ways, is it Ay-Barth, Ah-Barth or Ah-Bart???

[adrians]

We say Ab - arth...... But we're on the over side of the world.....

Regards

[ga.spyder]

We Yanks seem to lean toward Ay-barth.But hey,I live in Georgia where we cant decide if they are pee-cans or pe-cahns!!!

[opus10583]

Ok, so I've been wondering this, heard it 3 ways, is it Ay-Barth, Ah-Barth or Ah-Bart???

..."Ah-barth", according to a guy who restored and caretakes a 205 A.

Mark

[opus10583]

Hi,

...How about "guibo"?

Thanks,
Mark

[maytag]

It's been many years, but iirc, the Italian language doesn't have an equivalent to the English "th" sound.
But here's the kick, as far as I'm concerned: how do we pronounce Pizza in America? or Crepes? Or Des Moines? Or Illinois? These are all words that have a "correct" pronunciation, based on their etymology. But we've bast**dized the h**l out of their pronunciations here, and have created our own unique "correct" pronunciation for them, using a combination of American English rules of spelling / phonetics, and a misguided idea of what they were originally meant to sound like.

SO: if you are using the American English phonetics guide, the correct pronunciation would be "ah-barth", with the inflection on the front of the 2nd syllable.
If you want to pronounce it like the Italians, you'd say "ah-bart", with the inflection on the 1st syllable, the 'r' would get rolled and the 't' would be very, very short. just like the sexy lady on the commercial says it.

try this site for kicks:
http://www.acapela-group.com/text-to-sp ... -demo.html

you can type text and hear it repeated in numerous voices, with numerous languages.

[azruss]

Living in your corner of the world, Don, you know how bastardized names can get. Just think of how many times you have heard an outsider butcher cord-a-lane or even Spok-an (not Spok-ane), or Mos-coe (Mos-cow is in Russia).
I was kindly informed many years ago that the American pronunciation of Porsche was wrong and it is just a one syllable word.
So i guess you can decide if you want to be avant-gard and pronounce like an italian or just go with the americanized, bastardized version.

[131]

A bit off the topic of pronunciation, I thought I'd add this. The vast majority of people will have no idea what it all means!

You know you're Australian if .....

* You believe that stubbies can be either drunk or worn.

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* You pronounce Melbourne as 'Mel-bin'.
You believe the 'l' in the word 'Australia' is optional.

* You believe it makes perfect sense for a nation to decorate its highways with large fibreglass bananas, prawns and sheep.

* You call your best friend 'a total bastard' but someone you really, truly despise is 'a bit of a bastard'.

* You think 'Yackandandah' is a perfectly reasonable name for a place.

* You're secretly proud of our killer wildlife.

* You believe it makes sense for a country to have a $1 coin that's twice as big as its $2 coin.

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at which point they again become Kiwis.

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* You know that certain words must, by law, be shouted out during any
rendition of the Angels' song 'Am I Ever Gonna See Your Face Again', and "Living next door to Alice".

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While 'scuse me' is always polite.

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arvo, combo, garbo, kero, metho, milko, muso, rego, servo, smoko, speedo, righto, goodo etc.

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- to mean good. And then you place 'bloody' in front of it when you REALLY mean it.

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* And you will immediately forward this list to other Australians, here and overseas, realising that only they will understand.

[divace73]

Is that you SB? And I have been to Yackandandah, Acutally I designed a radio link for a customer when I was working for Telecom/Telstra/NDC/ Tesltra again.

Back on the Abarth, Carlo (Originally Karl) was Austrian I think.....

[FulviaHF]

maytag's got it exactly right. precisamente.

[geert]

with the Italians living here just around the corner ( over the Alps) :

pronunciation of Abarth, like 'apart' but with a 'B' instead of the 'P'. Stress on the second 'a': Abbàrrt

ciao, Geert.

( and after a lesson in Australian : for a little car : make it "Abàrrto , makes me think : Carlo Abarth was indeed born in Austria, and with the rule that pronunciation of the 'L' is optional in 'Australian', he might been as well an Australian, leaving lots of options about pronunciation)

[dinosabella]

Maytag is absolutely right about the Italian pronunciation.

However Carl Abarth was Austrian so I supposed this dude should pronounce it as it was meant to be pronounced

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVM__41 ... re=related

Dino

[Tobi]

Maytag is absolutely right about the Italian pronunciation.

However Carl Abarth was Austrian so I supposed this dude should pronounce it as it was meant to be pronounced

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVM__41 ... re=related

Dino

I agree

[131]

Is that you SB?

Yip