1981 Restoration

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Divers

Re: 1981 Restoration

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I think I have just about got my list of engine upgrades that I am going to pursue. For those contemplating a similar adventure, I put the dollar figure to the right. I am sure of all the pricing except for the machine shop stuff. I need to research if the current Bosch injection system can handle this setup. If not, I may have to change some things. We shall see....its a learning experience for me. The line separating the list is the difference between what I need (top half) and what I want (the bottom few pieces). If I have missing something (especially in the need section) please chime in!



95 amp alternator 189
oil pump 149.9
injector cleaning 128
valve shims 25
valve springs 89.9
Main bearing set (high performance) 69.9
head gasket (high performance) 67.8
fuel injection pigtails (need 4) 60
gasket set FELPRO 60
ss heater pipe 58
valve guide High performance) 46.4
water pump 39.9
tensioner bearing 39.4
Connecting rod bearing set (high performance) 37.7
radiator hose kit 34.9
motor mounts (NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE) 30.8
timing belt 16.9
valve guide seal (High performance) 15.2
valve spring keepers 14.4
spark plugs (NGK) 12
freeze plugs BRASS 10.9
long heat hose (heater pipe to head) 8.9
oil pan gasket 6.2
radiator support 3
t outlet gasket 0.9
crush washers for cam tower bolts
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AL crank pulley 95
40/80 cam 300
9.8-1 pistons (4.5mm dome) 350
Adjustable cam pulleys 200
larger intake valves 51.6
larger exhaust valves 51.6
distributorless ingnition system 550


Machine shop work $500 - $700
Deck the block
hone the cylinders (bore?)
valve regrind for larger valves
port and polish head
narfire
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Your car is a: 1980 124 spider
Location: Naramata B.C.

Re: 1981 Restoration

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I think I paid about $60 per hole for re boring,( Love 4 cylinder engines) and about $5-600 for all the head work and valve re grinds. Balancing the whole works was about $250-300.00 (all cdn $$$)
Chris
80 FI spider
72 work in progress
2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
Divers

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Thanks!
Divers

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Parts cleaning up nicely....the block is in progress.
Heads cleaned up...
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY0121.jpg
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY0122.jpg
Radiator professionally cleaned, flow tested and painted.
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY0120.jpg
Misc parts and the cams cleaned up and ready for something...
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY0118.jpg
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY0119.jpg
Just starting the block
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz31 ... NY0116.jpg
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124JOE
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Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

Re: 1981 Restoration

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are you going to paint any of those intake parts?
and the metal heater tube,i would go white
and a grey block almost siver

your going to have one sweet ride :D :D :mrgreen:
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
Divers

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Thanks Joe....currently its just a light at the end of a looooooooooong tunnel!
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124JOE
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Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

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well choo choo full speed ahead
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
ul1joe@yahoo.com 124joe@gmail.com
Divers

Re: 1981 Restoration

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All right....all pulleys and covers off. Pistons disconnected from crank.

1. How does the crank get removed? Seems like I need to slide the whole crank towards the pulley end and lift out....but obviously that is not going to happen.

2. Aux shaft is ready to slide out, but is not coming. Retainer under cover is removed. Gears for oil pump are removed. Mthe shaft just does not want to come out.

Eager to get this done...then cleaned so I can turn the corner and start rebuilding!
narfire
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Your car is a: 1980 124 spider
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Re: 1981 Restoration

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You have the oil pan off eh. Crank comes out from the bottom. Make a note the way the thrust washers are aligned, new ones go in with the groves aligned the same way.
The aux shaft should just slide out if you have that retaining bracket removed. Perhaps the #2 con-rod might be in the way a bit, turn the crank a tad then. Perhaps a LIGHT tap might get it to listen and come out. :roll:
Have fun
Chris
80 FI spider
72 work in progress
2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
Divers

Re: 1981 Restoration

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I am such a moron...especially when I am tired. It would help if I actually removed the rear seal cover so the crank would come straight out! I need a vacation :oops:
Divers

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Narfire,

The thrust washer (1 of them fell out already)......fell out. I will try and see how the other is oriented, but I think that one has move anyway.

Should I just replace them?
Divers

Re: 1981 Restoration

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Just bought a complete head gasket set off Ebay for $65.56. I have always had good luck with Fel-Pro.


Fel-Pro HS21201B1 Head Set
Divers

Re: 1981 Restoration

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...and....

Allison's (Mark) 274FI cam's and performance intake and exhaust valves. Next to find good springs and adjustable timing pulleys.....
narfire
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Re: 1981 Restoration

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Divers wrote:Allison's (Mark) 274FI cam's
I have those as well. Once dialed in (get the adjustable cam wheels!) at 109 deg centerline, the car pulls like no ones business. Love em :D I believe the degree-ing in of the engine can be done on the stand,otherwise the rad has to come out to get at the crank nut and mount the wheel.
80 FI spider
72 work in progress
2017 Golf R ( APR Stg. 1)
2018 F350 crew long box
Divers

Re: 1981 Restoration

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Alright...need some MORE help. I just cannot get the darn aux shaft out and do not want to beat it. Anyway see anything wrong in the picture?

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Also...what is the "trick" to getting the pistons out? My jeep engines, the pistons just slipped right out the top??? These get stuck...assuming its the combustion ridge that I need to gently sand off?


Thanks!

Robert
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