Paint Job

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blurple124
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Paint Job

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Has anyone had their spider body completely restored? I mean, rust removed, body repaired, primed and painted?

Any ideas on cost for any of these things? or suggestions on what and how to do some of it myself?

I'm not going for concourse quality here, but I want a better paint job than the one that is on there now, and I would like to have the rust cleared up.
Charlie
1978 Fiat 124 Spider 1800 - Antonia
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ Sport
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If not going for "prefect".....$2k - $5k. Will get you a good 2 foot car...that is...will look excellent from 2 foot away and good closer.
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Just had my car redone a couple months back. A lot of things can add or take away from the cost. How much rust, do you think they will need to replace some metal. What shape is the body in now. Will they need to sand every panel down and smooth a lot if dings. What color, two coat or tri-coat? Are you going to have them tear the whole car down removing trim, grill, lights, door handle, or are you going to do the tear down, or are you going to tape off areas. Do you want to paint engine bay, door jambs, trunk?

When the engine was rebuilt I painted the engine bay black. I took the trim off the car (everything except the windshield) sanded and took it down past a poor re-spray done in the early 90's. Had the shop complete the prep work and spray. Not a mark on the body anywhere. Primer, two coats bright white, two coats clear. Did not take the doors off and did not spray the trunk. Car was originally white so a real good cleaning of those areas done.

Cost not including my labor $3,200.


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mik
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Your car is a: 1969 124 Spider Convertible

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I got my 69 back after a total strip of paint, metal replaced in a number of places on the car. One wheel well, a portion right behind the front wheel well, a strip under the drivers rocker panel, and both eyebrows about headlights. He also had to figure out how to bolt the rockers on. Cost was $3400.
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124JOE
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Your car is a: 1978 124 fiat spider sport 1800
Location: SO. WI

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back in 99 i payed 2700 for the paint "i stuck with the bright red"
she had no rust but small dentsO plenty and a burned out pain job from the desert.
another 1000 on interior
300 on tires
1000 on exh


ohh yaa.joe
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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just got mine back from the paint booth. I removed all of the bright work and took off the front valance (windshield wiper section) and lower quarters. I did all the body work and primer sealer. No trunk or engine compartment and the jambs were left as is. All the sanding by me and a friend, multiple times, long story. I gave it to him straight but he spent another hour just fixing a few things. His wife does the taping and final prep. He towed it to his house, then took it to his booth where he works professionally and pays them to moonlight. Final bill including supplies $1250, two coats paint (Glasurit), 3 clear. It really is nice and I found him through a friend by accident and had painted his Karman Ghia. psg
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Post by grittracing »

spend the money it will be the best money you ever spent. But get a game plan before you get started how far you are going. If you going to pull the motor and drive train. To paint the engine bay if your doing the under side and if you are pulling the motor and tran no time better to replace all the seals gaskets. Clutch ect ect . I wish i had painted my engine bay
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opps sorry the exhaust was more like 400.joe

i wish i had the trunk repainted
when you do everything correct people arent sure youve done anything at all (futurama)
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Post by azygoustoyou »

I did all the work myself. Welded, media blasted, sealed, primed, sealed again, prepped, and got the car ready for final paint. All the painter had to do was clean, one coat of sealer, paint , and buff. It cost me about $2200. But then you should add all the other paint and primer I had to buy which was about $1000-$1500 including sand paper, etc..... Then you have to add in for the equipment to do the job. Just to use a desiccant filter for the primer is about $70 a pop. A LVHP gun costs $100-$200.
Filter separators for clean air is about $200. You'll need an air compressor and air line. I'm sure there's more. My brain just melted. Here's 128 pic's of a quick summary of all the steps I've done. Click on view all to go through them quickly. :P
http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh60 ... 20History/
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If you could do some work yourself, the price will be a lot cheaper. I've done everything myself, and I enjoy working on cars pretty much since I was a kid. If you do not have adequate skills or tools, there are many options which can have a huge price difference.

I don't know your budget, but let's assume you want get the best work done with the least of money. Then look around, in this economy, I am sure you can find someone with excellent skills who does work privately, and if you buy your own supplies-sand paper, filler, metal bites, compound, paint, primer...you probably save another 40%.
blurple124 wrote:Has anyone had their spider body completely restored? I mean, rust removed, body repaired, primed and painted?

Any ideas on cost for any of these things? or suggestions on what and how to do some of it myself?

I'm not going for concourse quality here, but I want a better paint job than the one that is on there now, and I would like to have the rust cleared up.
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azygoustoyou wrote: Here's 128 pic's of a quick summary of all the steps I've done. Click on view all to go through them quickly. :P
Wow. I must say, that is quite the job you did. I really like those tail lights and fog lamps.

I don't know how much of that I will be able to do by myself, but I think I know enough people with skills in the right areas that I could cut the cost down quite a bit.
Charlie
1978 Fiat 124 Spider 1800 - Antonia
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ Sport
azygoustoyou

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This is my first restoration. I didn't know how to do any of the stuff it took to do this car. But I learned as I did it.
Now I'm learning how to put it back together.
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So I'm still a long ways off on this part of my ownership, but I can't help it that my brain is always working....

I'm starting to wonder why I can't just do the whole shebang myself. I mean, strip it, sand it, prep it, prime it, sand it again, base coat and clear, then maybe clear again.

Couldn't I just set up a DIY paint booth in the garage? I have an HPLV gun. Maybe not the nicest one in the world, but who said I was going for the nicest paint job in the world? I have a compressor with a nice long air line and adapters.

If I have the proper equipment, how hard can it be, right?
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Charlie
1978 Fiat 124 Spider 1800 - Antonia
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ Sport
azygoustoyou

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Post by azygoustoyou »

I did that but when the time came to do the final job, I realized I would never get it as nice as I wanted.
At first all I wanted was to do a half decent job. I bet if you do most of it, you could find a good painter to do the final coat and buff like I did for a good price.
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Blurple (love the name!),

It depends on what turns you on about it. It sounds as if you are partway there already. For another 5 or 6 hundred, you could get a rotisserie kit: http://www.rotokit.com/

Then you could get a soda blasting setup, and do a super job of stripping. (or strip the car, and pull it partially or mostly apart, and have the metal all blasted for you).

You could augment your HVLP setup with some long black metal piping and some water traps and filter. You will need a super respirator mask setup, and full body coverage - paint and clear coat vapor is nasty stuff, not to be trifled with.

You could invest in some good welding equipment if you don't already have it.

You could practice on a scrap car from a junkyard just to get the hang of it.

There's a continuum from the "shop it out end on over to the full DIY end. Infinite combinations along that line.

I would love to have my daily driver in good shape, and add another project car to do this with - but it would be a hobby, nothing else.
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