Farewell SPYDUH, hello 05727H

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Curly
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Farewell SPYDUH, hello 05727H

Post by Curly »

Pragmatic economics has won out over personalised individualism. :cry:

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Our State Government has at long last introduced an attractive cheap registration scheme for older vehicles that aren't driven regularly. If you are a member of an approved car club, and the car is over 25 years old, you can, for a quarter of the price of normal registration, join the Club Permit Scheme which allows you to use the car (for any activity) for 90 days during the year. You are issued with a 90-day log book which must be carried with you in the car and filled in each day the car is used. The only draw back is that all vehicles on the scheme must fit and display the red and white plates that are issued to each participating vehicle. With 4 vehicles now on the scheme the saving is nearly $2000 a year.
The SPYDUH plates are still mine to use, display or sell, but silly as it may sound, I'm considering having them transferred to my regular daily driver. :roll: :roll:

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Post by mdrburchette »

This cost is just for registration? Wow, you guys have it rough! And I was complaining because my personalized plate costs me $50 a year vs $28. :roll:
1972 124 Spider (Don)
1971 124 Spider (Juan)
1986 Bertone X19 (Blue)
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2012 500 Prima Edizione #19 (Mini Rossa)
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Your car is a: 1976 Fiat 124 Spider
Location: Phoenix

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Wow, $2,000 savings on 4 vehicles? What is the registration based on?
I thought AZ was bad with a value assessment tax for the plates. Not much of an issue with the spider, but the fee on the wife's Acura makes me cringe every year.
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Redline
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Location: Switzerland

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Post by Redline »

Sounds similar to most European countries. It's not strictly a tag fee, it's a road use tax (on top of the petrol tax...). In Switzerland, depending on the state, you pay according to vehicle weight, engine size or engine specific power. The former makes the most sense, as this is what determines road damage. On average I pay 400 - 600 USD per car here (and no rebates for limited use classic cars, as in Germany or Australia).
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My regular plate costs me $78 a year, but any car older than 30 years qualifies for a historic plate at $18 a year. This plate is similar to the car club plate but has no restrictions on the number of days you can drive the car or the requirement of a log book. The stipulations include driving for a car club related activity or for maintenance. As we all know, most drives in a vintage Fiat can be considered maintenance :D. I have had a number of people ask about the historic plate, but never anything "Official".

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Kevin1
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It's only $35 to register and $15 excise tax with antique vehicle plates. Anything over 25 is considered antique. Nothing to complain about here. Glad there's a way to keep it affordable for you!
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Curly
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johndemar wrote:Wow, $2,000 savings on 4 vehicles? What is the registration based on?
I thought AZ was bad with a value assessment tax for the plates. Not much of an issue with the spider, but the fee on the wife's Acura makes me cringe every year.
According to SPYDUH's previous Certificate of Registration, vehicle registration over here includes a Registration fee of about $200, a TAC (Transport Accident Commission) charge of about $300, some GST (tax), and an Insurance Duty (compulsive third Party) of about $30. The annual cost varied a little depending on your place of residence (Insurance risk), but you don't get much change out of $600 a year.
The new Club Permit Scheme includes all the above elements but reduced on a pro-rata basis from 365 days to 90 days a year. There is also the option for those seldom-used vehicles, to go for a 45-day logbook which is half the price of the 90-day scheme.
As you can imagine, this new scheme has been well received by the historic and classic car movement in our part of Oz.
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Post by Exit98 »

Curly,

Wow, the logbook thing cracks me up.

Here in NJ USA we get classic car plates for I forget how much, but not very, no renewals, no inspections.

Supposedly we can only drive the cars on Sundays and to and from "club" events and shows.

But we pretty much ignore the rules and drive them whenever we want, and I've never heard of anyone getting stopped or hassled.

Hope things don't change.
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Exit98 wrote:Curly,

Wow, the logbook thing cracks me up.

Here in NJ USA we get classic car plates for I forget how much, but not very, no renewals, no inspections.

Supposedly we can only drive the cars on Sundays and to and from "club" events and shows.

But we pretty much ignore the rules and drive them whenever we want, and I've never heard of anyone getting stopped or hassled.

Hope things don't change.
Over-regulation and increased enforcement is a way of life over here. The 3 levels of government are all in for their cut of the revenue cake and the motorist is an easy target. :x
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Here in Sweden, all vehicles older than 30 years do not pay any road tax. The only cost for me is approx 10 USD to keep it in the register, and 200 USD insurance per year. For once, one thing that's cheap here! :D
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Curly,

ITA124 is following suit next month. I can't bear to dispose of the plate, so I will put it in storage with the RTA.

VIC historic scheme seems a little more liberal than NSW. NSW is restricted to club or club invited events, plus special permits from the club registrar.
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Toyota Corolla AE86 (Fiat as a daily driver? Not)
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Fiat 128 SL (First fiat)
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Curly
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ITA124 wrote: VIC historic scheme seems a little more liberal than NSW. NSW is restricted to club or club invited events, plus special permits from the club registrar.
That's how our Victorian scheme operated up until Feb 1 this year. The new scheme is so much better and is modelled on the Sth Aust. Log Book Scheme that has been running for many, many years.
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Long live SPYDUH! That's how we will remember your car, Curly. It doesn't need an expensive nameplate.
1972 124 Spider (Don)
1971 124 Spider (Juan)
1986 Bertone X19 (Blue)
1978 124 Spider Lemons racer
1974 X19 SCCA racer (Paul)
2012 500 Prima Edizione #19 (Mini Rossa)
Ever changing count of parts cars....It's a disease!
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Location: Western Australia

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ITA124 wrote:VIC historic scheme seems a little more liberal than NSW. NSW is restricted to club or club invited events, plus special permits from the club registrar.
In W.A. the registration fee drops from around $400 to $40, and the only restrictions are that the car is to be driven to or from club events, in club events, or for road testing. The vehicle is specifically excluded from use commuting to and from work regularly. There is no limit to the number of kilometres travelled, no logbook. The only requirement is that the car has to be inspected annually by the Club's scrutineer to ensure it is still safe to operate. We also get to keep whatever rego plate we like, just attach an additional small tag below the number plate stating 'Historic'. This applies to any vehicle over 25 years old which is in ostensibly 'as built' condition.

SPYDUH unfortunately wouldn't fit on the scheme in W.A. with those rims and bumper modifications.
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1974 Fiat 124 CC (same family since new)
1975 Fiat 124 CC (project)
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